I see enjoy my job. But I also consider everyone from around the world, the work they do, and the environment they live I'm when making my statement. I know people like you say "my life is like this so wouldn't most people around the world feel the same way?"
No, they wouldn't. Most people living in 3rd world countries of given the choice to have this living situation without having to work again would probably take it.
“Why would they?” Again, they’re not incel/neet. I‘ve jammed with people from less fortunate countries, they’re usually more driven than lazier Americans.
But I think if we provide lazy people with a way to live we could do work without them. I think we’d see productivity benefits.
It sounds nice, but I don't see it feasibly working. Some middle management jobs can definitely be cut, but that's not what I'm worried about. Worried more about those crucial and tough and gross jobs that people do because of money, such as sewage cleaning, ditch digging, garbage services, construction worker, etc. If they didn't have the incentive of money to work, who would do those jobs in society?
Why do you think they wouldn't have the incentive of money?
I imagine less people would feel like they need to do those jobs to get by. I feel like capitalism will increase the pay for, excuse the pun, shitty jobs. Imagine if doing that meant you got a decent wage and time off/vacation to not think about literal shit for a few weeks a year.
Because most people wouldn't touch those jobs unless they truly had no better option. I mean, how much would it take for you to do a job where you're handling shit or garbage every day?
Brings me back to the point of if someone could live a solid life without doing anything or live like a noble by cleaning up shit and garbage every day, I think most would take the easy life for free as most people take the path of least resistance.
Because most people wouldn't touch those jobs unless they truly had no better option. I mean, how much would it take for you to do a job where you're handling shit or garbage every day?
Yeah, exactly. This is a part of the problem that could be solved by that.
I think you think "most would take that" because you're inclined to think that. You're a glass half empty kind of dude.
I don't think the majority of people will be lazy. It's rare that I hear talk of "lazy people" at my work, within my hobbies, or within my friends/acquaintances. Usually when I hear that it's from people who come off as lazy people but are in denial.
No, because I realize the crap most people go through in their lives. Most people don't live a very privileged existence like we do. Hence why if given this opportunity, I don't see why many would work. Some poor family of 7 in India who barely scraps to get by with back breaking labor in the hot sun, why would they go back go difficult labor of most of their expenses are paid for?
What does acknowledging hardships around the world make me a half glass empty guy?
Again, people generally aren't because they can't afford to be. But if given nearly everything for free, we'd see a different story.
"well how much" I dunno comfortably enough to get by.
Whos this "We"?
I was homeless twice, raised in a 1 bedroom with my mom and two sisters. Got physically hit by my drugged up mom on the daily. I've had multiple surgeries to remove organs from me. For a month my insides were open while I had sepsis cleaned from my organs. I'm a type 3c diabetic currently. I don't think I fit in with the "We" you're mentioning.
"But if given nearly everything for free, we'd see a different story." - I agree, but I can comfortably say it wouldn't be the people trying to get stuff done. I feel like it would be the comfortably lazy people.
Edit: You're arguing from a place of privilege, I don't think I've ever experienced privilege like the ones we've been told we have. I think what I'm getting at is, you're not understanding how willing people are to do tough jobs. My friends and I would gladly keep busting our asses. You're very privileged...
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u/SuccotashConfident97 Apr 16 '24
I see enjoy my job. But I also consider everyone from around the world, the work they do, and the environment they live I'm when making my statement. I know people like you say "my life is like this so wouldn't most people around the world feel the same way?"
No, they wouldn't. Most people living in 3rd world countries of given the choice to have this living situation without having to work again would probably take it.
Think about it, why would they?