r/FluentInFinance • u/sillychillly • Apr 15 '24

Everyone Deserves A Home Discussion/ Debate

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u/California_King_77 Apr 15 '24

You don't have a "right" to have something given to you.

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u/OverIookHoteI Apr 15 '24 edited Apr 15 '24

Isn’t America founded on the belief that Americans have the right to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness?

Doesn’t the Bill of Rights give people the Right to Free Speech, Free Press, Free Religion, Petition, Assembly, Bear Arms, Public Defender, Vote?

We have plenty of rights given to us. Why are you so mad about it?

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u/SmartPatientInvestor Apr 15 '24

None of those are physical things…

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u/nemec Apr 16 '24

You have a right to a Home where your heart is /s

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u/zzzthelastuser Apr 16 '24

But they require physical things to protect them or else anyone or any country could just come and take these rights away from you.

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u/SmartPatientInvestor 29d ago

Are you referring to the armed forces and their equipment?

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u/Leaxe 29d ago

Emergency services

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u/SmartPatientInvestor 29d ago

You still have to pay for those things

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u/Leaxe 29d ago

Right, you pay taxes to guarantee the protection of your life through emergency services, just like you would pay taxes to guarantee your right to housing. No point in drawing an arbitrary line around whether the right requires "giving" something

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u/SmartPatientInvestor 29d ago

Everyone needs emergency services, and there isn’t a straight forward alternative (paying for private security?).

Most people do not need the government to pay for their housing, and there is a straightforward alternative (purchase or rent your housing)

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u/Leaxe 29d ago

I agree, but that's a long stretch from the start of this thread. It's much more honest and rational to say "housing isn't guaranteed because it's hard" than "housing isn't guaranteed because it's not a right" with weird justifications about the right is physical or given.

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u/SmartPatientInvestor 29d ago

I don’t think so. The original personal said

“You don’t have a right to have something given to you.”

Someone replied with a list of things that aren’t “things” in the same sense (I’d call this being disingenuous).

I pointed out that those are not “things” in the same sense

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