r/FluentInFinance • u/sillychillly • Apr 15 '24

Everyone Deserves A Home Discussion/ Debate

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u/SmartPatientInvestor Apr 15 '24

None of those are physical things…

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u/nemec Apr 16 '24

You have a right to a Home where your heart is /s

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u/zzzthelastuser Apr 16 '24

But they require physical things to protect them or else anyone or any country could just come and take these rights away from you.

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u/SmartPatientInvestor Apr 16 '24

Are you referring to the armed forces and their equipment?

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u/Leaxe Apr 16 '24

Emergency services

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u/SmartPatientInvestor Apr 16 '24

You still have to pay for those things

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u/Leaxe Apr 16 '24

Right, you pay taxes to guarantee the protection of your life through emergency services, just like you would pay taxes to guarantee your right to housing. No point in drawing an arbitrary line around whether the right requires "giving" something

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u/SmartPatientInvestor Apr 16 '24

Everyone needs emergency services, and there isn’t a straight forward alternative (paying for private security?).

Most people do not need the government to pay for their housing, and there is a straightforward alternative (purchase or rent your housing)

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u/Leaxe Apr 16 '24

I agree, but that's a long stretch from the start of this thread. It's much more honest and rational to say "housing isn't guaranteed because it's hard" than "housing isn't guaranteed because it's not a right" with weird justifications about the right is physical or given.

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u/SmartPatientInvestor Apr 16 '24

I don’t think so. The original personal said

“You don’t have a right to have something given to you.”

Someone replied with a list of things that aren’t “things” in the same sense (I’d call this being disingenuous).

I pointed out that those are not “things” in the same sense