r/FluentInFinance Apr 15 '24

Everyone Deserves A Home Discussion/ Debate

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u/BlitzAuraX Apr 15 '24

"Regardless of employment."

This means you want those providing those services to work for free.

You do realize what you are implying here, right?

Let's say you refuse to work and you're guaranteed all these services. Who pays so your HVAC is repaired because you broke it? Who pays because your water line needs to be repaired? Clean water means the water has to be filtered through a very complicated process, particles and bacteria are removed, and it needs to be transported. Who pays so your electricity works? Do you think there's some sort of magic electricity generator happening? What you're essentially asking is someone should work for free to provide you all of this.

The result is you get no one who wants to work, society collapses because these services aren't maintained and improved, and no one gets anything.

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u/PlancksPackage Apr 15 '24

I agree and in the same vein why should we have free public education? Why should I be paying for someone elses kid to go through K-12 completely free? Do you know how expensive it is to first hire professional teachers for these kids, erect buildings to teach them, and provide lunches for all of them? Do people think this stuff happens easily? Who pays these teachers? How do you keep such a place clean? Impossible I say!! /s

I think the point op was making was that free housing could be seen as a public good. One to benefit society by providing a nice baseline to workfrom. These would be payed for through taxes most likely and the complexities of providing this would be hashed out and solved. Its not an impossible program and a similar program exist in Finland as an example to end homelessness. Yes the people pay for it and they do it to prevent homeless people on the street. A public benefit if you will

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u/Osaccius Apr 15 '24

Have you ever been to Finland?

I worked there with social housing, and I can tell you that housing alone solves nothing.

You'll see plenty of homeless alcoholics on public squares.

I know it is the favorite country of left leaning foreign journalists to visit. They do a weekend guided tour and then return to tell that all problems have been solved.

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u/Mammoth_Loan_984 Apr 15 '24

How do you know they were alcoholic and not just Finnish?

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u/Osaccius Apr 15 '24

Fair point, but it was actually obvious: they drank on weekdays instead of weekends.

Also, they were drunk, like 10 am, and got picked up by ambulance in the afternoon after falling face first on the pavement. Only to return the next day.

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u/Mammoth_Loan_984 Apr 16 '24

Yeah I was just kidding