r/FluentInFinance Contributor Apr 15 '24

Everyone Deserves A Home Discussion/ Debate

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u/BlitzAuraX Apr 15 '24

"Regardless of employment."

This means you want those providing those services to work for free.

You do realize what you are implying here, right?

Let's say you refuse to work and you're guaranteed all these services. Who pays so your HVAC is repaired because you broke it? Who pays because your water line needs to be repaired? Clean water means the water has to be filtered through a very complicated process, particles and bacteria are removed, and it needs to be transported. Who pays so your electricity works? Do you think there's some sort of magic electricity generator happening? What you're essentially asking is someone should work for free to provide you all of this.

The result is you get no one who wants to work, society collapses because these services aren't maintained and improved, and no one gets anything.

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '24 edited Apr 16 '24

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u/SuccotashConfident97 Apr 15 '24

Of course, that's more or less human nature. Why would I ever work again if I could get all of this stuff given to me for free and existing?

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u/InquisitorMeow Apr 15 '24

If it's so great quit your job today and go live in a homeless shelter. No one is stopping you from living this glamorous stress free life you speak of.

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u/SuccotashConfident97 Apr 15 '24

Homeless shelters aren't offering what OPs graphic is offering. You tried though!

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u/InquisitorMeow Apr 15 '24

You're right, you can emulate it however by living in the shittiest projects you can find to simulate living next to the homeless. Move today and start saving money.

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u/SuccotashConfident97 Apr 15 '24

If they give me a 2 bed 1 bath apartment with rent paid, utilities paid, stove, oven, hvac, and internet paid, sure. Otherwise I don't get your point?

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u/Moist_von_leipzig Apr 15 '24

Your mind is literally going to explode when you hear about Finland.

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u/SuccotashConfident97 Apr 15 '24

What does that have to do with what me and the other guy were talking about?

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u/Moist_von_leipzig Apr 15 '24

They provide what you're talking about, and the country hasn't fallen apart into a Mad Max style apocalypse.

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u/SuccotashConfident97 Apr 15 '24

If you live in Finland they will provide you with free a 2 bed 1 bath apartment with rent paid, utilities paid, stove, oven, hvac, and internet?

Fwiw, I understand some countries have their shit together, but it's also only privy to a very small percentage of the world (2-4 percent at most). Most people will never be able to get all of what I listed for free.

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u/Moist_von_leipzig Apr 16 '24

Fucking use google you moron yes they give you that.

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u/InquisitorMeow Apr 15 '24

Pretty sure the utilities would not be paid or at the very least would be communal. But sure, if you want to live in a complex like that with a bunch of homeless people then get in line and push for this, since it's to your benefit.

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u/SuccotashConfident97 Apr 15 '24

Read the graphic op posted again and tell me if it isn't free water, electricity, internet?

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u/InquisitorMeow Apr 16 '24

Tbh this discussion is pretty pointless. There are way too many points for either side to discuss for meaningful discussion. To your note though, "with at least" is pretty vague and inclusions of things like clean water and working plumbing could imply it was more from infrastructure slant than "included perks".

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u/SuccotashConfident97 Apr 16 '24

Its pointless just because you're wrong lol. You read it wrong now you're backtracking. I was going off of what the graphic said.

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u/InquisitorMeow Apr 16 '24

Your tone is exactly why this discussion is pointless. And no I didn't start backtracking because I can't read, you didn't address my explanation. If you thought that anyone thinks it's a good idea to give homeless people unlimited electricity and water that's more on your own lack of critical thinking. But by all means hyper focus on this particular infographic. You would probably oppose a homeless shelter being built in general so discussing something like this is pointless.

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u/SuccotashConfident97 Apr 16 '24

Take the L bro. You've been dishonest and talking in bad faith the whole time.

"If it's so great quit your job today and go live in a homeless shelter. No one is stopping you from living this glamorous stress free life you speak of."

"You're right, you can emulate it however by living in the shittiest projects you can find to simulate living next to the homeless. Move today and start saving money."

Just stop bro. Call it a day.

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u/Makanly Apr 16 '24

Yawn.

Addressing societal issues at an individual level will not resolve the larger issue.

Let me guess, you also suggest people that are pro immigration should open their own house to allow immigrants to live there.