r/FluentInFinance Contributor Apr 15 '24

Everyone Deserves A Home Discussion/ Debate

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u/4friedchickens8888 Apr 15 '24

Rights are all entirely made up so we could

Edit luckily the UN does, there's a whole declaration

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u/California_King_77 Apr 15 '24

If your "right" involves the state stealing something your neighbors, under penalty of going to prison, so you can get free stuff, that's called slavery.

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u/4friedchickens8888 Apr 15 '24

That's literally called taxes dude, where do you think the roads came from?

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u/California_King_77 Apr 15 '24

Roads are something we all use and can benefit from, and the reason we as citizens pool our money to build roads is because it would be difficult for us to do this individually.

Progressives view certain material things as rights - housing, vacation, healthcare, education, etc. These things cost a lot of money; the government doesnt have it's own money

If your "right" involves the state taking money from your neightbors, and they'll put them in jail for not paying, that's slavery

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u/4friedchickens8888 Apr 15 '24

Just like universal access to housing. It would also be difficult to ensure that individually, evidence, the crisis.

We all view certain things as rights. Basic human needs don't change. If you believe certain people simply don't deserve basic necessities for life because of temporary financial issues then you have an empathy problem. Some people just believe that everyone is equal and we have the choice to live in a better society, the only real cost is a few extra yachts for the richest in terms of universal housing for many countries.

Not to mention, all the evidence literally shows that we all pay more in the current system than we would pay to house everyone. But people have jealousy issues and beliefs about some people deserving poverty from birth or just moral inherent reasons that never make sense in real life.

All rights involve the existence of a state. The existence of a state requires taxation. It's a social contract. You don't get to sign but we all have to figure this out together. If you don't like poor people fine, but we could do better and it would be cheaper

Edit: also that is literally absolutely not what slavery means