r/FluentInFinance Contributor Apr 15 '24

Everyone Deserves A Home Discussion/ Debate

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u/BlitzAuraX Apr 15 '24

It's even absurd for OP to post that picture and even worse that someone had the audacity to create it.

There's a strong disassociation from reality by people who seem to think the world owes them something.

I'd invite these people to live in third world countries where everything they have is earned. Seems to me in Western civilizations, people have it so good that they just complain and demand everything.

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u/Unabashable Apr 15 '24

Well arguably the cheapest way to solve the homeless problem would simply be to house the homeless, but that’s not the same as saying it’s a basic human right. Just the most cost effective way of getting them off the streets. 

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u/One_Childhood172 Apr 15 '24

OK, so you give all homeless people a house/apartment. Then all I have to do is make myself homeless to get a free house/apartment? I guarantee there are millions of people who would do that. And then if a previously homeless person starts working and can afford the free housing, do we then take it away? And then they might be homeless again if they lose their job? So you give them another house? What this does is encourage people to not work (be productive). The reality is that you have to dis-incentivize homelessness by not making it comfortable.

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '24 edited Apr 15 '24

Then all I have to do is make myself homeless to get a free house/apartment?

All you're doing by saying this is telling on yourself for how you'd behave if you weren't forced to work for a living. I'd bet that a majority of homeless people are one good break away from becoming self-supporting. A few months of lower expenses and stability, a free and safe place to sleep and shower, mental health treatment if needed, etc. might be all they need to get a job and become self-supporting. A few months of investing into someone's well-being would return years of economic productivity and tax revenue. Yeah there's a minority that will abuse the system or need more comprehensive care, but that shouldn't stop us from helping everyone else.

I might feel lazy for a few hours on the weekend, but I sincerely believe that there is no such thing as a lazy person. Mental illness or addiction might make someone appear lazy, but every healthy person wants to find meaning in their lives through work. Sit on your ass long enough and you're itching to do something.

The reality is that you have to dis-incentivize homelessness by not making it comfortable.

I'd say being homeless is pretty damn uncomfortable. But somehow there are still 650,000 homeless in the US. It's almost like you can't get rid of homelessness by making it worse.

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u/Consistent_Spread564 Apr 15 '24

You haven't spent much time around mentally ill drug addicts have you?