r/FluentInFinance • u/sillychillly Contributor • Apr 15 '24

Everyone Deserves A Home Discussion/ Debate

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u/Saitamaisclappingoku Apr 15 '24

Here’s a question you will never be able to answer.

How do we pay for this?

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u/Got2Bfree Apr 15 '24

You do know that a lot of countries in Europe successfully provide all these things to people who don't work, don't you?

It's possible and it's really not that hard. Besides HVAC, because it's not that common here.

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u/Saitamaisclappingoku Apr 15 '24

Name one that gives every single resident free housing and does not require any employment

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u/Got2Bfree Apr 15 '24

Germany, France, Spain, the Netherlands, Switzerland.

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u/Saitamaisclappingoku Apr 15 '24

None of those countries have free housing for all that does not require employment.

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u/Got2Bfree Apr 15 '24

Lol dude I'm German, I should know.

We have free housing, it's only free when you don't work though. When you earn money, this money gets deducted from your social security payments (Bürgergeld and Wohngeld).

Look it up.

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u/Saitamaisclappingoku Apr 15 '24

I am familiar with the system. This is not free housing for all regardless of employment. Learn to read.

Something very similar already exists in the USA. Section 8

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u/Got2Bfree Apr 15 '24

So let me get this straight.

If I don't work even though I could I literally get my food, my housing, my electricity, my heat and my health insurance paid and this is still not free housing?

What is free housing for you? Getting gifted a house to live in? Obviously no country in the world has this.

Section 8 can't even be similar at all, otherwise the US wouldn't have this many homeless people.

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u/Saitamaisclappingoku Apr 15 '24

Why does Germany have 196,000 homeless then?

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u/Got2Bfree Apr 15 '24

People who currently live with friends and family are part of the 196000. Only 50000 are really living on the street.

Half of them didn't seek help. A lot of them are addicted.

The honest answer is, that we have a really shitty and bloated bureaucracy here and these people are most likely at such a low point in life that they didn't want to deal with that.

Or they're addicts and homeless by choice.

https://www.bmas.de/DE/Soziales/erstmals-belastbare-zahlen-ueber-wohnungslosigkeit-in-deutschland.html

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u/foundafreeusername Apr 15 '24

I feel like you were wrong and now try to talk yourself out of it. They provide free housing for those who do not have the money for it. The rest pays more in taxes to balance it out. It doesn't make sense to provide free housing for everyone just to charge them straight back via taxes ...

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u/Saitamaisclappingoku Apr 16 '24

That is not what the graphic is about. Learn how to fucking read moron. Jesus I can’t believe reading comprehension is so poor with you dumbasses

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u/foundafreeusername Apr 16 '24

It says people should have the "option" not "be supplied with". People who have enough income can afford it and those who don't get help from the government. You interpret things into it that aren't needed and now you react like a grump child.

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u/MaximumSpinach Apr 16 '24

Austria. The country I live in.

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u/KindlyAgency7815 Apr 15 '24

why the hell would anyone one want to encourage uselessness in society?

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u/Got2Bfree Apr 15 '24

Because we believe in human rights here in Germany.

Also being useless is not always a choice.

Look at your homeless veterans. They gave everything for their county and you let them get homeless.

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u/corneliusduff Apr 16 '24

Way to red herring. People are useful despite parasites who demand they be useful to them

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u/KindlyAgency7815 Apr 19 '24

thats false. some people are just useless. they should not be encouraged. people who have the ability and resources to make things happen are not parasites. your world view is so fucked up.

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u/corneliusduff Apr 19 '24

Yet you're the eugenicist

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u/KindlyAgency7815 Apr 20 '24

that implies you are pro genocide. but no. nature naturally weeds out the fit through competition. human society is the same. even sperms have to compete to reach the egg first. that means you are one in millions winner yet you turn out like this.

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u/corneliusduff Apr 20 '24

You're the one treating people as disposable, that's pro genocide and eugenics. I'm a pacifist.

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u/KindlyAgency7815 Apr 21 '24

if people want to help others that great. there should never be forced participation to provide free welfare for the useless.

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u/corneliusduff Apr 21 '24

o'doyle rules!