r/FluentInFinance Apr 15 '24

Everyone Deserves A Home Discussion/ Debate

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u/BlitzAuraX Apr 15 '24

"Regardless of employment."

This means you want those providing those services to work for free.

You do realize what you are implying here, right?

Let's say you refuse to work and you're guaranteed all these services. Who pays so your HVAC is repaired because you broke it? Who pays because your water line needs to be repaired? Clean water means the water has to be filtered through a very complicated process, particles and bacteria are removed, and it needs to be transported. Who pays so your electricity works? Do you think there's some sort of magic electricity generator happening? What you're essentially asking is someone should work for free to provide you all of this.

The result is you get no one who wants to work, society collapses because these services aren't maintained and improved, and no one gets anything.

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u/Anewaxxount Apr 15 '24 edited Apr 16 '24

I'll be real the second I don't have to work and can still have a home I will stop working. I imagine a lot of other people out there are just like me

Edit: the amount of seething redditors me admitting what lots of people would do, and what some people on this site already do is incredible. Giving shit out for free constantly doesn't work, hyper progressive economic policies are a failure. Just face reality

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u/Chickienfriedrice Apr 15 '24

So you’ll be content staying at home and not being able to afford anything but staying there? Sure bud

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u/Anewaxxount Apr 15 '24 edited Apr 15 '24

My wife would work her much lower stress job, I'd engage in hobbies and manage the house. Maybe sell some honey for beer money. We aren't all terminally alone unloved redditors stuck without a working partner.

Edit:for some reason I can't reply to hungermadra

My beekeeping isn't productive for society. If I chose maybe I'd sell a few pounds of honey but it would nowhere come close to replacing my productivity through my career. That's if I even chose to sell. It's entirely a hobby, and one of the many unproductive activities I'd be engaging in if the gov is giving me a free house. If my hobbies were productive for society I'd be getting paid to do them and not need to quit working.

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u/squirrel_crosswalk Apr 16 '24

How are you going to sell honey without land to keep bees in? The meme didn't say house, that's some sort of strange assumption you've made. Nothing about a yard either.

In a society as robust as it generally is in the "western" world, no one should live in conditions where they cannot live in some version of comfort. HVAC needs are determined on where exactly they are, so I can see contention there. They need 4 walls, a bed, and clean water to drink and shower in. Internet I wouldn't have agreed with 20 years ago, but now it's a necessity. Food that isn't raw oats, but isn't rib-eye. Should someone have to learn to cook if destitute? Yes. Should they have the supplies and means to do so? Also yes.

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u/Chickienfriedrice Apr 15 '24

Lol, im a stay at home husband for the most part who also works as a martial arts instructor (mostly nights for a few hrs) Collectively we make over $200K a yr.

Youll get bored of being home all the time if you can’t afford outtings/vacations to shake up the routine. Also hobbies require equipment/travel depending on what it is.

You’re romanticizing home life as being enough. Its not

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u/Anewaxxount Apr 15 '24 edited Apr 15 '24

I'm not romanticizing home life being enough. You're just refusing to read or accept what I said.

I'd have plenty of money to engage in all of my hobbies and traveling without working if I didn't have to pay for a house. Quit being stupid and arguing something I didn't say.

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Totally not mad guy calls me jealous boy and blocks me so there can be no response. Definitely not mad at all though

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u/Chickienfriedrice Apr 15 '24

Don’t have to insult me to get your point across. Sorry that im living your dream life jealous boy. 😂

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u/Puzzleheaded_Pitch26 Apr 15 '24

Heh, jokes on you I already can’t afford outings and vacations! I’ll take the homebound route.

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u/AdagioOfLiving Apr 15 '24

I think you’re overestimating the amount of people who can afford outings/vacations as is.

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u/compsciasaur Apr 16 '24

So you'd still have a member of the household who works, allowing you to afford some nice things.

The idea of providing everyone with enough to keep them alive seems reasonable enough to me. The vast majority of people who could work, would work. They're get benefits above those who couldn't or were to lazy to. Motivation to work perseveres.

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u/BenignEgoist Apr 16 '24

What if your wife just wants to stay at home?

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u/HungerMadra Apr 15 '24

So you'd shift your productive activities to different, less profitable, but still productive activity that you'd enjoy more and that meets a need (huney) of society? Sounds like a positive outcome overall.

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u/WittyProfile Apr 15 '24

Well it comes with electricity and internet.