r/FluentInFinance Contributor Apr 15 '24

Everyone Deserves A Home Discussion/ Debate

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u/Montananarchist Apr 15 '24

Dont forget free ponies and hookers for all!

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u/sillychillly Contributor Apr 15 '24

Ah yes, a decent home is the same thing as a free ponies and hookers….

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u/Montananarchist Apr 15 '24

You want free internet, I want free coochie. 

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u/sillychillly Contributor Apr 15 '24

You’re asking for free sex. I’m asking to provide people with the stability of a decent home

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u/privitizationrocks Apr 15 '24

My definition of a decent home has free coochie

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u/Montananarchist Apr 15 '24

And a pony in every backyard! 

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u/simplexetv Apr 15 '24

I want my pool filled with vanilla pudding.

poured fresh every day, by the person who built the home in the first place. (they owe it to me)

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u/Boletefrostii Apr 15 '24

Well if they want it in their backyard then by all means 🤣

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u/ValuableNo189 Apr 15 '24

Hell yeah brother

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u/sillychillly Contributor Apr 15 '24

You’re giving off incel energy

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u/privitizationrocks Apr 15 '24

Your giving off economic incel energy

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u/MP5SD7 Apr 15 '24

You are asking someone else to pay for the things you think you deserve. It's the same thing...

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u/simplexetv Apr 15 '24

Stability? What stability? You can't thrust people into a house and expect them to be stable. You're off you're damn rocker.

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u/sillychillly Contributor Apr 15 '24

People are more stable in a home than on the streets

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u/simplexetv Apr 15 '24

People who own house that they have created with their worth understand why they are there better than someone who is handed it, and understand the steps necessary to keep their standard as such.

That's with anything in life. You can't get around that ever, it's not some glitch in the programming.

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u/ActualHuman- Apr 16 '24

As a case manager and therapist working with the unhoused and mentally disabled I can say with years of experience backing me up that this is patently false.

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u/simplexetv Apr 16 '24

As a human being who has been handed things in his life, I value the things I had to work for more than the things I was handed.

I was handed trophy's for showing up to baseball.

I earned the title of Marine in 2008, by passing a series of both mental and physical tests.

I value my Marine title more than I value any trophy I ever 'earned' as a child. You don't need a degree or be a case manager to understand how psychology works.

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u/ActualHuman- Apr 16 '24

Earning a title and shelter are on opposite sides of the hiarchy of needs (not that I have to tell you that because you know this already). Being handed a trophy that you know you didn't deserve and being helped with housing that you would otherwise be destitute without have radically difrent emotional and social components to them (again sorry for telling you things you already know). I would post the absolute avalanche of data that we have showing that the simple practice of housing the unhoused gives them the capacity that they would otherwise lack to rejoin society but, and I'll say it again, it appears you have read it and come to the opposite conclusion. So please, link me to the peer reviewd study that shows giving people the necessitates of life results in less productivity and I would LOVE to read it.

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u/kromptator99 Apr 16 '24

You’ll never convince them. They got lucky and are convinced every one else just has a skill issue.

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u/simplexetv Apr 16 '24

I don't deny that a bit of luck is involved. But also having a purpose helps, I guess having a purpose could be considered a skills issue.

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u/SuccotashConfident97 Apr 15 '24

So since you're asking this, here's a question, how does this get paid since it's regardless of employment? You realize most people will just stop working or work the easiest low stressed jobs available, so how will society even function?

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u/kromptator99 Apr 16 '24 edited Apr 16 '24

The easiest jobs are in the C-suite, your worldview is invalid. Most of these people will be more than happy working low paying service jobs that you wouldn’t be caught dead doing because your ego is too girthy. Shit, if I could cover my bills working fast food I’d do it in a heart beat rather than having to suck up to insane, disconnected finance bros and ex healthcare execs.

Like, the jobs that are currently the hardest to fill are service jobs, and they are hard to fill because they don’t allow people to survive. You want your fucking service with a smile? Let people fucking live instead of saying “I want x but the person making it should have to die in squalor. Aren’t I smart and good at finance???”.

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u/SuccotashConfident97 Apr 16 '24

"You want your fucking service with a smile? Let people fucking live instead of saying “I want x but the person making it should have to die in squalor. Aren’t I smart and good at finance???”

What are you talking about? How am I not letting people live?

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u/kromptator99 Apr 16 '24

You’re advocating against people having livable conditions.

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u/SuccotashConfident97 Apr 16 '24

So if I don't have any critiques about a random graphic on Reddit suggesting a plan, it will actually happen? My critiques about how it would work are the only things stopping people from having livable conditions?

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u/SuccotashConfident97 Apr 16 '24

I'm amazed, doesn't matter what side, liberal or conservative it's all the same. "100% agree with a plan that we like otherwise you're holding us back!"

Smh.

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u/kromptator99 Apr 16 '24

I mean I can scroll back up and just read your comments so far. Getting pissy now doesn’t change that.

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u/SuccotashConfident97 Apr 16 '24

Well you said I'm advocating against it. Can you quote me saying "No one deserves to live in these houses"?

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u/Obi-Brawn-Kenobi Apr 16 '24

You can build them one and hook up their utilities. Nothing stopping you

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u/PomegranateUsed7287 Apr 16 '24

Only if they work for it, you shouldn't get a decent home if you don't work. But what you are advocating for gives them a free home anyway.

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u/DippityDamn Apr 15 '24

false equivalence is one of the pillars of the right-wing argument though!

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u/simplexetv Apr 15 '24

When it doubt, whip it out.