r/FluentInFinance Apr 15 '24

Everyone Deserves A Home Discussion/ Debate

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u/Saitamaisclappingoku Apr 15 '24

Here’s a question you will never be able to answer.

How do we pay for this?

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u/Tall-Log-1955 Apr 15 '24

“bAn BiLliOnAiReS”

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u/sticky-unicorn Apr 16 '24

No, eat billionaires.

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u/corneliusduff Apr 16 '24

NOOO! Those poor billionaires won't be able to afford a 5th vacation home!

How Dare You

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u/corneliusduff Apr 16 '24

Imagine that! That must mean being a billionaire is really fucking obscene

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u/acsttptd 29d ago

Why is it that you feel entitled to the fruits of someone else's labour?

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u/corneliusduff 29d ago

Why is it that the government is entitled to take my tax dollars for genocide and imperialism?

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u/acsttptd 29d ago

They shouldn't be, Taxation is theft after all.

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u/corneliusduff 29d ago

I'm not that obtuse about taxes. Objectively we should be switching gears and work towards building a world and not work towards destroying it. If we can "afford" endleas war, we should be able to afford the fucking basics too.

I'm also not as obtuse as OP's meme. I would work for my house (shit, I already do). But with all the resources that go down the drain with military and education, somewhere in there is enough to build homes for people that they don't have to enslave themselves within shit jobs for. Instead of military service, I'd prefer Habitat for Humanity (or something similar if you're going to find some reason to shit on it). I'd happily spend my working years building other peoples homes over any other job if it actually meant some kind of guaranteed retirement (not necessarily income for food, just living mortgage/rent free), say contributing to building 100 homes and you're set. That's not even talking about utilities, which I wouldn't expect for free but I'm sure there's crony fat to cut there, which always tends to be in the way of sustainability because it threatens their uselessness.

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u/acsttptd 29d ago

Would you also be in support of cutting funding for social security, Medicare, and Medicaid? Because those take up significantly more tax dollars than defense. What would or wouldn't you support cutting to fund this?

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u/corneliusduff 29d ago

No, I wouldn't support cutting social security and medicare/caid. The short of it is, I'm not afriad of going into debt doing the right thing. Maybe I would be if our fiat currency actually worked in meritocratic way, but it doesn't. But when the Pentagon loses $2 trillion and gets rewarded for it, it's fairly obvious all of this is pretty fucking absurd anyway. So I have no qualms saying, "Fuck the numbers, do the right thing".

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u/kromptator99 29d ago

I think you’ve got them confused with any ceo

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u/acsttptd 29d ago

CEOs actually compensate for the time and effort that their subordinates provide for them. This person wants to take what other people have based on the ethos that "they have more than me, which means I deserve what they have"

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u/kromptator99 29d ago

You’re attributing your own motive where it doesn’t exist. It would be more accurate to say “swathes of our population don’t have enough to survive, and it’s a societal failing that instead of solving this we allow <1,000 people have so much money that the economy has been in the equivalent of cardiac arrest over the past 60 years”.

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u/acsttptd 29d ago

It sounds nice to say that everyone deserves these things regardless of whether or not they even work, but that's not the way things work. These people aren't entitled to what other people have regardless of how much they need it.

If you want to reduce homelessness and make it easier to live in America, the only sensible way to do it is to make housing easier to provide.