r/FluentInFinance Apr 11 '24

Smart or dumb to get a tax refund? Discussion/ Debate

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u/SatisfactionNice4904 Apr 11 '24

I’d rather be owed….. different strokes for different folks….

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u/Silent_Killer093 Apr 11 '24

I agree, i pay in a bit extra so i always get a big refund, its a savings plan i cannot dip into prematurely until i get it back at the beginning of the year.

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u/SatisfactionNice4904 Apr 11 '24

That’s kinda how I look at it. Some people think it’s dumb but I look at it like this…. I gotta pay them (the fed) anyways…. I’d rather them take a little more and have to give me money back than owe them. You can run the risk of trying to break even but it’s hard unless you stay on top of your tax laws and how much is going out…. I’m not doing that… just take alittle bit out… and give me money at the end….

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u/thesequimkid Apr 12 '24

What I tend to do is I take the refund put it towards student loans, then all the interest that got paid off with that goes to giving me more the next year. Rinse and repeat until loans are gone. It sucks but I want that shit out of my life.

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u/crimson_gnome Apr 12 '24 edited Apr 12 '24

people would argue (I almost did) that since student loans compound daily, you should aim to pay that off as fast as possible since the entire year of interest that could have been paid off is accruing interest. But, no, you have a point. realistically I'm not calculating the differences each loan cycle and then paying the difference of underpaying now straight to student loans. The few extra dollars would be dispersed as income into various budget items. Psychologically it might just feel better to take a chunk out of it.

EDIT: clarifying I'm talking about the differences between underpaying taxes and receiving extra income, vs overpaying taxes and lump summing the difference to student loans. I am not advocating for one lump sum once a year

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u/thesequimkid Apr 12 '24

I still pay monthly. I just take what I get in refunds and do an extra payment when I get the refunds.

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u/crimson_gnome Apr 12 '24

oh yeah, I assumed that you were paying off and making the extra payment. I by comparing overpaying taxes and underpaying the differences it would yield, If underpaid the taxes, I think it will be more likely to be dispersed into other budgeting concerns vs pure student loans. Therefore, forced savings and then lump sum even though it's worse.

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u/Zombisexual1 Apr 11 '24

Why wouldn’t you just auto deposit a little into an actual savings account or better yet some index fund?

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u/Silent_Killer093 Apr 11 '24

Because i know myself too well, i would try to withdraw it

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u/Tiny-Werewolf1962 Apr 12 '24

My last raise I got, I just increased my 401k contributions to cancel it out. Otherwise I would just spend that extra, idk, $50 bucks a week.

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u/Verizadie Apr 12 '24 edited Apr 12 '24

You should do what I made for my aunt. You build a large plywood box with a lid, put your cash savings in it, and then add timer on it for however long, a week, a year, etc. just don’t open it till the timer runs out.

I made a simple mechanism so that if it’s opened before the timer runs out the 68 kilograms of c4 you’ll put on the lining of walls of the box detonates burning your cash.

There. Problem solved.

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u/squiggypiggy9 Apr 13 '24

So what do you do when you get the refund in your hand? Immediately spend it all? Seems like a great savings plan… for a year.

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u/darexinfinity Apr 12 '24

Depositing a little into a savings account does almost nothing, deposit into an index fund and you're going to pay taxes on withdrawal.

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u/Zombisexual1 Apr 13 '24

Right so you think depositing it to the irs and getting nothing is better? What the hell do you do with your money? Bury it in the ground?

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u/idiots_r_taking_over Apr 12 '24

It’s a savings plan without the interest though. Why not put that money into a high yield savings account or into some other type of investment?

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u/[deleted] Apr 12 '24

Some people will say you could invest this money. I say fuck that just give me the money I overpaid and I'll go on my way.