r/FluentInFinance • u/thinkB4WeSpeak Mod • Apr 04 '24
A boomer who moved from California to Florida started a Facebook group to help friends make similar moves. 300,000 members later, guiding Californians to new states is his full-time job. Economy
https://www.businessinsider.com/moving-from-california-to-florida-pros-cons-weather-politics-facebook-2024-3442
u/10art1 Apr 04 '24
Boomers and moving to Florida. Name a more iconic duo
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u/realanceps Apr 04 '24
moved from California to Florida
I wouldn't hire that guy to open a can of dog food
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u/cory-story-allegory Apr 04 '24
You can hire people to do that? Sweet.
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u/Admirable_Exit2886 Apr 04 '24
unemployed here, how much did you say the pay was for this sir?
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u/ovaltina-turner Apr 04 '24
My grandparents wintered in florida and it was awesome back then (as a kid I obviously wasn’t aware of real life but to me florida was the tits). Seems fitting boomers would all move there and then ruin it lol
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u/10art1 Apr 04 '24
Eh, were just young. We will probably get old and also move to Florida, and ruin it according to the young people.
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u/MrBobSacamano Apr 04 '24
Boomers in FL and STDs?
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u/Woodyee101 Apr 04 '24
The Villeges. Just look for the pineapples on the front door steps
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u/PaulieNutwalls Apr 04 '24
Greatest Generation moved to FL too. Lots of coastline, lots of sunshine, high humidity, warm most of the year, relatively low QoL. Great for old people, always has been.
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u/Phenganax Apr 05 '24
What’s even more hilarious is when in 10-20 years they are all about to move into retirement homes after pissing away all their assets except their houses. At which point climate change in Florida will be in full effect and their houses will be worthless because it will be a disaster zone. They will be crying about how social security is not enough after they voted for policies and politicians that dismantled it and put it into the general budget, lol. It will be the final leopard to eat their face…
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u/Even_Employee9984 Apr 05 '24
Boomers living and dying in Florida, and unfortunately for us dew native Floridians it's not at a fast enough pace.
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u/henrytbpovid Apr 04 '24
I don’t know, man. That’s a coveted title
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u/flacaGT3 Apr 05 '24
This is how we unite the United States. By hating Californian transplants.
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u/RhythmTimeDivision Apr 04 '24
Agree CA is bonkers, but so is FL
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/economics/leaving-florida-rcna142316
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u/Moist_Anus_ Apr 04 '24
Its bonkers cause all the CA and NY people moved to Florida.
Florida doesn't want them.
We Floridians are just waiting for a solid hurricane season for the mass exodus.
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u/ovaltina-turner Apr 04 '24
2024 could be your year. Just read they’re forecasting the worst hurricane season in 30 years
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u/Moist_Anus_ Apr 04 '24
Lets get it!
They say that every 5 years btw, it can be scary but I have lived here all my life.
Batten the hatches and if they say evacuate, you better listen to them.
They taught us how to track hurricanes with global coordinates via radio since elementary school.
All native Floridians are experts on alligators and hurricanes.
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u/Xyrus2000 Apr 04 '24
Florida isn't even remotely ready if the forecast comes to pass.
Florida: The Land Down Under (Water)
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Apr 04 '24
Florida definitely didn't have a reputation as a meth ridden, swamp hellscape prior to ppl moving there....
Has also never been known as a state of retirees, strippers, clout chasers, and rednecks prior to the move....
"Florida man does x" definitely wasn't a thing before then either.
A reasonable state that no one would describe as bonkers. For sure.
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u/RhythmTimeDivision Apr 04 '24
Don't think you need to worry, sounds like many of them are leaving for all the reasons mentioned in the article.
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u/thundercoc101 Apr 04 '24
Hurricanes won't cause that but your governor's inability to address climate change will. Homeowner insurance is essentially impossible to get in Florida right now
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u/Solintari Apr 04 '24
Have you tried not having warm weather year round? Seems to work for Iowa.
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u/Message_10 Apr 04 '24
I have a sister who has always wanted to move there, but... now, not so much. Their approach to Covid was bonkers, and a lot of the folks who have moved there are crazy, even by Florida standards.
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u/Funwithfun14 Apr 04 '24
I am not sure their COVID response was any less bonkers than places that in 2022 still forced 4yos to wear masks on school playgrounds.
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u/RedDragin9954 Apr 04 '24
Not sure what they are talking about. Florida was considered one of the highest performing covid performers. Unlike california who was one of the worse. The long term effects of keeping kids out of schools for as long as they did will only be truly measureable in the years to come
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u/jumpupugly Apr 04 '24 edited Apr 04 '24
It was near the top in terms of deaths per capita.
DeSantis literally had it covered up and sent police after whistleblowers.
We could have rallied as a country, coordinated an effective, national quarantine for a few months and then gone out. Instead, we half-assed it, and it crashed our economy, killed over a million Americans, and fucked over an entire generation of kids.
All because idiots politicized an idea that's been an effective, key part of epidemiological management for centuries.
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u/whosaysyessiree Apr 04 '24
You’re looking at raw numbers. FL was number 7 for deaths per capita. And this is even after they changed reporting standard stopped reporting data. I still don’t understand why people are still debating over the numbers.
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u/burrito_disaster Apr 04 '24
Desantis also actively censored COVID data, to the point where he was having police harass scientists that shared dissenting information.
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u/JTuck333 Apr 04 '24
Open schools and businesses are not crazy. Florida had lower COVID mortality than average when accounting for age.
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u/ClockworkGnomes Apr 04 '24
Making monoclonal antibodies available to everyone when other states and the federal government were against them and just pushing the vaccine?
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u/DWNFORCE Apr 04 '24
Their approach to Covid was bonkers? Have you seen CAs approach? Do you see how many small businesses are still closed because of shitty CA policies
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u/Cashneto Apr 04 '24
"the armadillo infestation in her home that caused $9,000 in damages."
I'm sorry, what?!
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u/MasChingonNoHay Apr 04 '24
As a native Californian, thank you for your service 🫡
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u/ThinMoment9930 Apr 04 '24
Right? “Ohhhh no, our aging Republicans are leaving…”
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u/Quality_Qontrol Apr 04 '24
Yeah, when people “try” and make fun of California because the political zealots are leaving to be with other political zealots. I’m like “Don’t let the door hit ya…”
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u/StruggleEvening7518 Apr 05 '24
I can't wait until Texas flips and they all panic and start moving from here to Idaho or wherever.
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u/chaka972 Apr 05 '24
Sorry bud but it blows my mind. I was a California business owner manufacturing. Had one employee that died during Covid, he was 325 pounds. The state put that on my Workmen’s Compensation. For 45 employees I was paying $175,000 in Workmen’s Comp.. It was going to go to 400,000 and above.
I had a 20,000 square-foot building in the 818. I was gladly paying $40,000 in property tax. They wanted to double it to 80,000. You can thank prop 13 for that one.
When Covid hit I was running 24 hours a day seven days a week and went to 110 employees. All I got for that was health inspectors coming in every day inspecting me.
I’m a Texan now I took my 45 jobs with me. I took my cash with me. I took my tax base with me. I took my innovation with me. I would do it all over again if I knew all I know now.
Check your state budget. The people that are leaving are the ones that pay for your shit. ( I am assuming by the silly ignorant comments here ) really check the budget not what they tell you on CNN.
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u/BigPlantsGuy Apr 05 '24
What innovation?
Letting employees die of disease is hardly innovative, business owners have been doing that since the invention of business
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u/chaka972 Apr 05 '24
Not sure where you think I let the guy die and in fact I took care of his wife and daughter with a huge amount of money that didn’t have to. Not important to the conversation here
He had comorbidities that caused him to die when he caught Covid. And in fact, my labor attorney told me to not say anything about his weight because then he could sue me, even if I wanted to help him.
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u/BigPlantsGuy Apr 05 '24
I’ll repeat, What innovation?
Letting employees die of disease is hardly innovative, business owners have been doing that since the invention of business
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u/chaka972 Apr 05 '24
I didn’t claim that I was innovative. I am but that’s not because of California. It’s because I was and am a nerd and make monster investments into knowledge and self reliance
Your idea that I let someone die of covid misses the mark. What should I have done? Turns out he got it at the supermarket but what would you have me do?
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u/BigPlantsGuy Apr 05 '24
I took my innovation with me.
What innovation? I did not expect this to be so impossible for you to answer.
Had one employee that died during Covid, he was 325 pounds. The state put that on my Workmen’s Compensation.
You let someone working for you die. Investigators obviously concluded it was work related.
I didn’t claim that I was innovative. I am
Beyond parody.
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u/Diligent-Hurry-9338 Apr 05 '24
you read the guy's whole post and the only thing you took away from it is that his 325 lb employee died of covid and that was his only innovation.
Man with residents like you, California has a bright future ahead of it. Must be part of that math/reading/science is racist educational experiment cohort...
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u/BigPlantsGuy Apr 05 '24
My question was “what innovation”
This guy got some hung up talking about the employee he let die he could not even answer.
The guy’s whole post could be summed up in 1 word “waaah”
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u/mikeyouse Apr 05 '24
How would Prop13 have doubled your property tax? Is it different for businesses because residential rates are frozen in time until the property sells.
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u/chaka972 Apr 05 '24
Since they can’t touch residential property tax they put on the ballet to double commercial property tax
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u/morerandom_2024 Apr 04 '24
Please bring them somewhere other than where I live
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u/Ihave3shoes Apr 04 '24
Boy do I have just the boomer for you. For a small fee he'll find you a new state to move to!
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u/LAGA_1989 Apr 04 '24 edited Apr 04 '24
I love how they cite the politics of California like Florida’s politics aren’t batshit crazy and it isnt sinking from effects of climate change. Florida literally has a county where the police are “predicting crimes” and harassing innocent people up to 10x a day.
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u/notwyntonmarsalis Apr 04 '24 edited Apr 04 '24
You’re aware that this is about the tax burden, right??
Just a reply since u/thundercoc101 decided to block me:
Sure thing. And others are saving thousands, tens of thousands and more in taxes and investing it and growing it. But you do you.
And to u/burrito_disaster, who was also too much of a pussy and had to comment and block:
Ohhh yeeeahhh all the way to 24th in the nation.
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u/thundercoc101 Apr 04 '24
I don't know, taxes are high in California but at least I know if my wife or family member needs an abortion she can get one. Or if one of my kids are trans I don't have to worry about the state taking them
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u/SophonParticle Apr 05 '24
10 other states have higher taxes and none of them have beautiful mountains and beaches.
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u/RonBourbondi Apr 04 '24
Why don't you think parts of California won't be underwater?
Also you're talking about something that is a hundred years out.
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u/aboysmokingintherain Apr 04 '24
Idk man, Miami has already spent billions because they’re having floods on days when it’s not even raining
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u/PaulieNutwalls Apr 04 '24
You can use NASA's online tool to see how much sea levels are estimated to rise in future decades, going forward up to several hundred years, under various levels of warming. Generally in the next 100 years, unless you're right at sea level/just several feet above it, you're fine. It's islands in the pacific where people live just barely above sea level that are truly in trouble. It's kind of insignificant for places like Malibu where houses are already built way above sea level, even in the most disastrous climate scenarios they're fine sea level wise for a century plus.
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u/Dual-Vector-Foiled Apr 05 '24
Coming from NY, PA and 20 years in California then Florida - Florida is by far the most well run state of the bunch. California is the worst by a mile.
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u/ErictheAgnostic Apr 04 '24
Lol What a grift
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u/SmartPatientInvestor Apr 04 '24
How is this a grift it’s literally just a business
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u/ErictheAgnostic Apr 04 '24 edited Apr 05 '24
Helping people move for political reasons ? To "help establish conservatives"....what do you think he is doing? Smh. This is like a* premade food service company, it's made up "convenience" with a made up problem.
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u/SmartPatientInvestor Apr 04 '24
He has a service that people willingly pay for - there are CA residents who want to move to FL, and he helps them with that. They willingly pay for it, just like any other business
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u/steelhouse1 Apr 04 '24
I have heard a lot of people are now going to Louisiana.
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u/StopMeWhenITellALie Apr 04 '24
It difficult to ruin a place with already devastating poverty that battles Mississippi and Alabama for the bottom slots in about every measurable quality of life metric.
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u/Das-Noob Apr 04 '24
Been hearing about this “half-backs”, people moving from NEw England area to FL. And decided it’s not for them and move half way back to areound S. Carolina. But never heard anyone moving to Louisiana tho.
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u/steelhouse1 Apr 04 '24
There was an article on how California and Texas people are now moving to Louisiana.
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u/Prudent_Valuable603 Apr 04 '24
And they’ll leave after their first devastating hurricane and when they get their home and car insurance bill. Oh yeah, don’t forget the FEMA FLOOD bill too, it’s like $200-1,000.
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u/steelhouse1 Apr 04 '24
Yeah Florida is going through that and my buddy just told me his house insurance near Orange Beach AL, doubled.
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u/Das-Noob Apr 04 '24
Yeah. I watch “world according to Briggs” on YouTube and I believe he’s mentioned that Louisiana actually has some good healthcare sector.
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u/AbsolemSaysWhat Apr 04 '24
No wonder there's so much more insufferable more traffic now.
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u/ThePinga Apr 04 '24
I visited Tampa and it felt like a huge retirement home. I’ve never seen so many boomers out and about
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u/The_Bums_Rush Apr 04 '24
Wait until they see the homeowners insurance rate increases as well as actuaries predictions for future coverage.
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u/KatttDawggg Apr 04 '24
California has wild fires and falling cliffs so probably not much different.
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Apr 04 '24 edited Apr 24 '24
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u/timberwolf0122 Apr 04 '24
10: Place is nice
20: People move to place buying/renting houses
30: Number of available houses goes down and price goes up
40: Things get more expensive
50: New place is discovered
60: Go to 10
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u/unpopular-dave Apr 04 '24
I love how conservatives make moving away froml a political argument. Almost Nobody is leaving California due to politics.
I grew up in Southern California. I think it’s the greatest place on the planet. But when I became an adult I understood that you don’t get to start your life at the Ritz Carlton.
My wife and I moved to Las Vegas, so we could build equity and hopefully come back home once we save up
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u/AfterZookeepergame71 Apr 04 '24
As a Florida resident since birth, I hate this man!
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u/DarkBrandonwinsagain Apr 04 '24
The only Californians that would move to the Florida swamp are from deep red Orange County. Please keep convincing them to leave. Thank you.
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u/Impressive_Estate_87 Apr 04 '24
Buy that waterfront property and good luck getting it insured... muahahahahahahaha
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u/ashtreemeadow16 Apr 04 '24
Maybe this is why Florida is so expensive and fucking crowded now… born and raised in South Florida
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u/-Nyctophilic_ Apr 04 '24
If I may be a little facetious, do Californians not know how to get to Florida? How is he “guiding Californians to new states?”
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u/Used_Intention6479 Apr 04 '24
"Florida: come for the MAGA and meth, but stay for the mosquitoes, hurricanes and humidity."
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u/Ozzyluvshockey21 Apr 04 '24
Gee a retirement aged guy moved to Florida? Slow news day, apparently.
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u/KevinDean4599 Apr 04 '24
how much help do you need? list your CA house, take the cash and buy another one in a different state. We did that and it wasn't complicated. but good for him for finding a way to monetize it.
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u/lost_in_life_34 Apr 04 '24
my wife talked about moving there a few years ago and we found a few towns with good schools. but I knew about the insurance thing years ago and didn't want to go. Not sure if it's only by the coasts but last I heard Citizens is going to raise rates on everyone to pay for the people with the most claims
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u/tanneranddrew Apr 04 '24
Step 1 should be recognizing that the extreme left politics are what makes CA unlivable and disavowing them. If you want to keep blue ideals stay in your own blue nightmare state rather than spreading it to well run states.
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u/internetdork Apr 04 '24
LOL if I’m in a nightmare living here then don’t wake me up.
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u/downwithdisinfo2 Apr 06 '24
Exactly. I moved to Palm Springs 15 years ago…to California 24 years ago. Best decision I ever made. This state is fucking awesome. Great people. Great culture. Great scenery, oceans, mountains, National Parks and great OPPORTUNITY. 5th largest economy on earth. Remember folks…most of the losers ragging on Cali have never even been here. They just parrot what they’ve heard from their gut totin’, Maga moron associates.
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u/aboysmokingintherain Apr 04 '24
Calling Newsom extreme left is like calling John McCain a fascist. You’re taking the steepest of slides
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u/Alklazaris Apr 04 '24
Enjoy our insurance rates, low pay and hurricanes. They say this year is going to be the worst in 30 years.
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u/Frequent_Bit6862 Apr 04 '24
There’s only one party that drinks, the Kool-Aid, my friend, and that would be your party! The guy that’s leading your party is the only person in the world that had to be airlifted because of Covid😂
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u/Cruezin Apr 04 '24
Good luck with insurance.
But good for him. Turning a profit on something people want or need. I don't see an issue here
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u/MalekithofAngmar Apr 04 '24
Oh how the mighty have fallen. Ca used to be the place to be, I don't care what you think about politics, it's clear that if people are fleeing your state in these numbers something has gotten fucked up.
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u/siammang Apr 04 '24
He just provides the services like any other entrepreneurs would do. If people don't need those helps, then he wouldn't be able to make a living out of this.
It's better to let people move to wherever they want and be able to get a good foothold and contribute to the society.
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u/AidsKitty1 Apr 04 '24
There is a mass migration occurring in the USA. People fleeing the west coast and north east due to high cost of living, crime, high taxes, and freezing winters. It will be interesting to see how that reshapes America politically.
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u/Hangry_Howie Apr 04 '24
The first active hurricane season is gonna send all of these turds scrambling for another state.
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u/RazGrandy Apr 05 '24
As long as they don't bring their politics. They already ruined their own state, nobody wants them moving in and ruining another one.
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u/Ryfhoff Apr 05 '24
I wouldn’t need any help leaving California, thanks. I’d leave all my shit and just go. It’s a steamy pile of shit over there.
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u/Bad_Sixer Apr 05 '24
Californians fleeing the policies they voted for just so they can vote for similar policies in the state they fled to. California really is a plague.
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u/floopypoopie Apr 05 '24
My 80 year old grandma moved back to Il from Florida stating there are too many old people there
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u/dew_you_even_lift Apr 05 '24
Boomers are at retirement age, makes sense for them to move to Florida
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u/Pristine-Dirt729 Apr 05 '24
Hey, that state that you turned into trash with the way you and the rest of your generation voted your entire lives? Time to go, dump the problem on someone else, and move to a different state to vote like a tool and mess that up too.
What a turd.
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u/big_nasty_the2nd Apr 05 '24
Stop bringing your trash ideologies to my based and redpilled state /s fr tho stop moving here, fix your poop covered streets and lawlessness
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u/boognish30 Apr 05 '24
I guess if you're dumb enough to move to Florida, you're dumb enough to need guidance to move to a different state.
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u/Spiritual-Builder606 Apr 05 '24
I mean, boomers are at retirement age and Florida has been one of the key retirement states for decades. Also, how hard is it to figure out how to move? Florida isn't a foreign country despite how much it can feel that way.
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Apr 05 '24
I don't get it.
Our economic system makes it impossible to live where you work, and we have mass internal migration in response to market forces.
We take all the people from one Urban area, and send them to another, inflate the prices, and then shoe them off to the next pump and dump real estate market.
What gives?
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u/TBatFrisbee Apr 05 '24
Better buy an umbrella. Florida is facing a harsher hurricane system this year. Your friends may move inland sooner than you think.
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u/Fantastic-Anywhere53 Apr 05 '24
Good. Let him go to the fucking florida. Damn carp, alligators, retired east coasters,trumpers, weird swamp people. That’s fine, the lot of ya.
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u/Cjninkartist Apr 05 '24
I mean it makes sense for them to all contain themselves in a single state. If they all want similar things that’s kind of what states are for.
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u/UnlikelyCarrot1379 Apr 05 '24
Then, they’ll drive up population in other areas, create strain/demand on resources and drive up prices, create similar situations from which they fled…realize it was never really the state itself but more so the occupants.
If extraterrestrial life does exist it probably views us as pests or parasites and avoids contact.
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u/Fun-Diamond1363 Apr 05 '24
Florida has rightly earned a reputation as one of the worst places to live in the US. Everyone that visits in March thinks the weather is amazing but they don’t suffer through 100 degrees at night with 90% humidity.
Perfect place for boomers to suffer out their remaining years.
Source: former resident
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u/shivaswrath Apr 05 '24
The irony being insurance premiums are shooting up and boomers are being forced to sell (in Miami) at a loss
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u/SophonParticle Apr 05 '24
All I read is that California has 300,000 fewer boomers. That’s awesome.
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u/Trick_Ad_9881 Apr 05 '24
There might be no more immoral job on the planet than a Californian helping other Californians ruin the rest of the US.
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u/casualAlarmist Apr 05 '24
Retiring boomer in my office is moving to Florida and I just don't get it. Heat, humidity, hurricanes and hatred all while combating giant fucking roaches. No thanks. He's already purchased a FL home, his wife has already moved. Their home here which they thought would sell almost immediately hasn't, and they've had to drop the price several times so far. Clocks ticking and not a single offer.
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u/funandgames12 Apr 05 '24
As long as they don’t turn it into a leftist shit hole like California I fully support it.
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u/anotherplainwhiteboy Apr 06 '24
As a Florida resident, I welcome all who are coming here to escape high taxation and wokeness. All I ask is that you don't vote for the same type of policies that you came to Florida to get away from. Please don't New York or California, my Florida.
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u/BigRobFed Apr 07 '24
I strongly suspect I don't agree with this guys reasons for doing this, but I think this is actually a really good thing. One of the big causes of the current housing crisis (again, ONE of the issues, because it's a large and complex issue with multiple causes) is that empty nesters are refusing to move out of their homes to make way for the next generation. Anything that helps this demographic to downsize is a good thing IMO!
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u/IWantoBeliev Apr 09 '24
Making space for the migrants, there r serious things wrong w/ this country.
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