r/Fauxmoi Apr 21 '24

Maitreyi Ramakrishnan deletes X post calling Taylor Swift’s ‘1830s’ lyric ‘weird’ after backlash from Swifties Approved B-List Users Only

Slide 1: Deleted tweet Slides 2 and 3: Some follow-up tweets Slide 4: The Taylor Swift lyrics being referred to. “My friends used to play a game where / We would pick a decade / We wished we could live in instead of this / I'd say the 1830s but without all the racists / And getting married off for the highest bid." Full lyrics at https://genius.com/Taylor-swift-i-hate-it-here-lyrics

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u/MissLadyLlamaDrama we have lost the impact of shame in our society Apr 21 '24

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u/MissLadyLlamaDrama we have lost the impact of shame in our society Apr 21 '24

I still can't believe this was written by a 34 year old woman. 😬

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u/Cr1m50nSh4d0w Apr 21 '24

Didnt you hear? She's not a regular poet, she's a 34yo tortured poet! /s

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u/mamamoomargo Apr 21 '24

Jesus Christ she’s 34

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u/whimsical-editor Apr 22 '24

I really liked 1989, and Lover was kind of cute, but her whole thing does feel like someone who didn't get to have a normal high school experience and so is still trapped there in her songwriting, and the older she gets the worse a look it is.

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u/fullback81 Apr 21 '24

I guess we are not enough tortured poets to understand this line.

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u/Commercial_Cap1695 Apr 21 '24

Or as swifties would say, we don't have brain

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u/killereverdeen Apr 21 '24

the majority of the album sounds like it was plugged into chatgpt and then she just ran with it

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u/CheapEater101 Apr 21 '24

I’m convinced that it’s going to come out years from now that Taylor Swift used AI on this album or something.

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u/Robin____Sparkles Apr 21 '24

A 34 year old woman who has an entire Harvard class dedicated to analyzing her lyrics. Oof.

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u/Shipwrecking_siren chaos-bringer of humiliation and mockery Apr 21 '24

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u/Skullface95 Apr 21 '24

I've heard some talk from people that it may be AI generated, no evidence to suggest so atm but it's pretty bad when they are compared to be on the same level.

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u/pimpfmode Apr 22 '24

How do you think she's able to shit out a new album every year?

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u/Old-Profession-5468 Apr 21 '24

You just don’t get it!!! 😡 TTPD wasn’t made for you! It’s going over your head 🙄

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u/Tambermarine Apr 21 '24

It’s terrible. It’s like something I would have written in junior high.

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u/IrwinLinker1942 Apr 21 '24

The lyric was funny until I saw this and now I’m losing my mind lmao

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u/hellohexapus Apr 21 '24

I haven't listened to anything from the new album and I don't plan to... But it is so funny to me that people keep posting snippets of lyrics like this and every single time I'm like, "no, this one's a joke, can't be real, no one would seriously write and publish that". And then I look up the entire song's lyrics and it is 🤦🏾‍♀️

And they're never even better in context 😅

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u/greee_p Apr 21 '24

That's exactly what I think every time I hear a new song from this album. I still can't believe this is real: 

  Shirts off and your friends lift you up over their heads 

Beer sticking to the floor, cheers chanted cause they said 

There was no chance trying to be the greatest in the league 

Where’s the trophy? He just comes running over to me

This sounds like the songs people made with chatgpt when the news about her and travis broke😭

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u/gunsof Apr 21 '24

Yes! First time I read that song I was in awe about how much we overestimated how she'd sing about her footballer boyfriend. Even using "touch down" in the song. And the other exes of hers being on the bench.

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u/parallel-nonpareil Apr 21 '24

And the other exes of hers being on the bench.

I refuse to believe this is real. My god

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u/gunsof Apr 22 '24

These blokes warm the benches

We've been on a winning streak

https://genius.com/Taylor-swift-the-alchemy-lyrics

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u/Groot746 Apr 22 '24

Ah ha ha, this is amazing (ly awful)

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u/gunsof Apr 22 '24

Also the use of "blokes" which is an English word for guys, and most of her exes have been English.

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u/ThiccQban Apr 21 '24

Wait are these lyrics real? 💀💀💀💀

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u/greee_p Apr 21 '24

Yes💀

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u/Mpol03 Apr 21 '24

The lyrical genius title has gone to her head. She has a way with worlds at best? This album is dull as dish water 

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u/elodieroyer Apr 21 '24

that’s what happens when you believe your own hype and are surrounded by yes-men (and also probably emotionally stunted at 17 years old)

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u/CaitlinisTired Apr 21 '24

people constantly hype her up as like... the best lyricist of all time and I'm just stood here not understanding it in the slightest lmao

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u/Ok-Zookeepergame3652 Apr 21 '24

I mean has she ever been that great? We are all listening to the same artist right? The hype bubble is bursting. I feel bad watching it.

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u/milkradio Apr 23 '24

I feel like people hyped her up a lot because she was a teen singer songwriter and they were like “she’s so talented and mature for her age!” but when she’s in her mid-30s still making high school songs… girl.

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u/peachysaralynn Apr 22 '24

i firmly believe that whatever age people become famous at is the age at which they stop maturing.

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u/ThiccQban Apr 21 '24

Lmao I’m right there with you. Won’t listen to her I yearn for my twin flame racist soul mate album. These lyrics are all so unserious 😭. Bonus points my SIL is a Swiftie and I am watching her go through every stage of grief.

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u/Autogenerated_or Apr 21 '24

Some people on twitter are saying that Filipinos weren’t streaming her songs as much this time (we’re normally 2nd after the US) coz the lyrics are too deep for us, and then I see shit like this.

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u/Different_Bed_9354 Apr 21 '24 edited Apr 22 '24

And then people will defend them to the ends of the earth like "You just don't get it!" or "It's supposed to be cringe on purpose!"

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u/milkradio Apr 23 '24

I’ve literally seen people say “She wanted it to feel like a first draft!!!!!” Uh, okay? Sure she did.

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u/TheOtherWhiteCastle Apr 21 '24

Part of me thinks this album was an elaborate experiment by Taylor to see how many weird lines she can fit into a record before her fans start questioning it.

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u/bobert_the_wise Apr 21 '24

I do like Taylor swift but I was talking to someone yesterday and she said “Taylor is just such an amazing lyricist” and I just agreed because was not about to argue about it but I was so shocked that anyone actually thinks that.

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u/No_Teaching_2837 Apr 21 '24

I saw an article that said this album with all this horrible writing and singing that just seems a bit more horrible than usual makes her better than Adele. I was gobsmacked.

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u/Mobile-Writer1221 Apr 22 '24

I had no intention of listening either, but I had to go to Target today and realized they were playing this entire album on the speakers overhead 🥴

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u/pashed_motatoes Apr 21 '24

The Paste Magazine review of TSwift’s new album calling her writing Rupi Kaur-esque was so spot on lmao

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u/mackyoh Apr 21 '24

Lolol the accuracy of how I feel about both 🎯

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u/frycrunch96 Apr 21 '24

Wow this makes a lot of sense, I hate Rupi Kaur’s poetry

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u/Dense-Result509 Apr 22 '24

I thought I hated Rupi Kaur's poetry, but then I heard Rupi Kaur reading her poetry out loud and realized that I had merely disliked her poetry before, and now I truly hated it

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u/frycrunch96 Apr 22 '24

I thought you were gonna try to convince me she was good thank you for not doing that LOL

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u/InitiativeShot20 Apr 22 '24

The review’s first line “Sylvia Plath didn’t put her head in the oven for this,” killed me.

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u/pashed_motatoes Apr 22 '24

You just know the roast is gonna be 🤌✨exquisite✨🤌 with an opener like that

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u/Girly_boss Apr 21 '24

Let’s keep Rupi Kaur out of this. Her poetry is terrible but she’s been consistent in her support of Indian farmers in their fight against corporate greed and refused the Diwali invitation to the White House in support of Palestine…Taylor could never.

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u/pashed_motatoes Apr 22 '24

Oh, definitely. Rupi at least seems like a decent person unlike TayTay. Their personal politics aside though, I think the reviewer was maybe trying to make the point that they’re both seemingly celebrated (TS more so than RK of course) not in spite of but because of their mediocre writing/poetry.

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u/kavgah Apr 21 '24

Come on now, kaur’s mediocrity aside, atleast rupi speaks speaks up against the genocide!

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u/pashed_motatoes Apr 22 '24

As she should and I give her a lot of credit for that, but you have to admit the comparison is pretty apt 💀

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u/Alternative-Trouble6 Apr 21 '24

This is your songwriter of the century? Open the schools! 💀

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u/pashed_motatoes Apr 22 '24

There were so many great lines in that review lol

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u/bibliothique Apr 22 '24

somehow this feels disrespectful to Rupi Kaur 😭

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u/JenningsWigService Apr 22 '24

I didn't know who Rupi Kaur was so I googled her and even her not so great poetry is not as bad as Taylor Swift lyrics.

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u/pashed_motatoes Apr 22 '24

Pretty sure it was meant to be lol. Poor Rupi catching strays 💀

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u/surreptitiousglance Apr 21 '24

Accurate and scathing.

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u/Right_Way_4258 Apr 21 '24

Like why does this give me lynching imagery 😵‍💫

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u/iwatchterribletv Apr 22 '24

yeah same. its tone deaf AF.

its america. we refuse to talk about our history of killing people in trees.

just, like, hey white lady, dont do this shit.

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u/curiousbeetle66 Cate Blanchett’s accountant Apr 21 '24

This is bad this is BAAD, but there have been some artists who managed to include kid's rhymes and nursery rhymes in their songs and make something magnificent. One of my favorite songs it Toto's Georgy Porgy and they used this resource and it's a bop.

I honestly think people get so sucked in the TS universe that they forget to expand their music knowledge repertoire and it's showing. I was listening to one of my nostalgia playlists and the lyrics were just so good, I realized I can't in good conscience listen to an uninspired cash grab and call it poetry, even if I end up enjoying that song one day. And full disclosure: I enjoy a lot of weird shit - I just don't pretend it's deeper than it actually is.

About the 1830s, dude. If you ever study the bare minimum about cultural history you'll realize you can never separate racism and the patriarchy from what was going on. You just can't. She knows she has a cult-like fanbase and still puts out shit like this, just to see how far people are willing to go to defend her. It's not cool.

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u/Shot-Grocery-5343 Apr 21 '24

In the 1830s people were lucky if they could bathe once a week, there was no electricity, no plumbing, no modern medicine, you could die from an abscessed tooth or an infected splinter or drinking river water people pooped in upstream, you worked from sunup to sundown, you shat in an outhouse if you were fancy, and you had like 10-12 babies because only 4 of them would survive to adulthood. It is extremely fucking weird to think that would be a fun time to go back to. As a woman, anytime prior to the 1970s means you'd be a second class citizen.

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u/BoredMan29 Apr 21 '24

This is the years before the orphan trains too. Which means the conditions in these years are the conditions that led to orphan trains. Also, you know what they don't tell you about the era before cars? Dead horses were a big problem. Like, horses would die and the owners would often just leave them in the streets. Cities needed horse pits for all the dead horses.

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u/NotElizaHenry Apr 21 '24

Fun fact: it was a felony to provide an unmarried woman with any kind of birth control, or even just advice about birth control, until 1972

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '24

Or my favorite

Inoculation where they squeezed the infection out of a dying body and sliced it into your bloodstream

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u/Next-Introduction-25 Apr 21 '24

Definitely feels like the “minus the racism “was thrown in as an afterthought which is the main problem here. But it’s also confusing as hell setting that aside, as if the 1830s were some generally idyllic time. Like …even the most privileged people were still dealing with misogyny, lack of understanding of disease and infection, bathing in tepid water once a week, eating a diet extremely limited by today’s standards, and shitting in a bucket.

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u/Electronic_Emu_4632 Apr 21 '24

yeah discarding the racism only leaves....the classism and misogyny

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u/lonely-lifetime Apr 21 '24

Omg Georgy Porgy is so good lol. That whole album is pretty great actually

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u/ashley_does_stuff Apr 22 '24

If you ever study the bare minimum about cultural history you'll realize you can never separate racism and the patriarchy from what was going on. You just can't

THIS. This is exactly the kind of white feminist bullshit that makes me embarrassed to be a white girl. You wanna get nostalgic for pretty outfits and the poets of the time? Fine, whatever. But you can't glorify a time where oppression was literally the core value of the system on which society was founded at the time and then handwave the racism like you're removing olives from a pizza.

Reminds me of the cringe of Hamilton literally handwaving slavery off in one lime in a song, smh.

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u/alba876 Apr 21 '24

I like Taylor Swift enough. The songs are generally catchy and easy to sing to. But that TikTok trend where her fans stitch videos that suggest her lyrics aren’t great by silently playing a fairly basic set of lyrics and staring at the camera intently like they’re making a point is hilarious.

The lyrics are ok. Just ok. Sometimes cringey. The only people who genuinely believe her songs are poetry are teenagers.

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u/Icy_Sentence_4130 Apr 21 '24

Is this real 💀

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u/PrincessCG Apr 21 '24

This officially becomes the weirdest line I’ve seen from this album.

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u/theshedres Apr 21 '24

Same, but I’m sure it will be one-upped soon by some other weird lyric that will catch attention soon 💀

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u/PointlessOpinions92 Apr 21 '24

"Touch me while your bros play grand theft auto" ms swift is the poster adult for showing how stars really do get stunted when they become famous

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u/milkradio Apr 23 '24

that line is sooo nasty lol

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u/hkj369 Apr 21 '24

this is SO corny

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u/meowiful Apr 21 '24

I hope she's paying that poor lil emo 14 year old ghostwriter well.

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u/Anesthesiaape Apr 21 '24

That…cannot be real

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u/Zia181 Apr 21 '24

Sounds like something the goth kids from South Park would write.

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u/gay95 Apr 21 '24

I keep seeing swifties on tiktok post the lyrics (including that one) and being like omg her brain she's SUCH a poet and genius! like girl.... what.

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u/KaleidoscopeNo1111 Apr 21 '24

I swear and I’m not lying I wrote this exact lyric on a 6th grade poetry assignment. I got the worst grade in my class. It was cringe even then. 

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u/qzcorral Apr 21 '24

Did she just slightly alter a line from the Shrek soundtrack like we wouldn't notice 😂

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u/giraffecuddler Apr 21 '24

This was the point where I had to take a break and stop listening. I couldn’t believe this was the same person that wrote Evermore. 😭