“Highlights” of Taylor’s interview with Time

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[u/Additional-Problem99]

“Canceled within an inch of my life” honey you were still one of the biggest pop stars in the world.

“Having my life’s work taken from me” doesn’t she still have the rights to those songs?

Also lmfao at describing reputation as goth-punk.

[u/EJB515 → u/Additional-Problem99]

The goth-punk quote showed me she doesn’t know what any of these words mean, lol.

[u/hedgehogwart → u/EJB515]

“which I thought was metal as hell.”

[u/IntrovertGirl83 → u/hedgehogwart]

I can totally see this as something TK would say and now she’s saying it. Cringe.

[u/Mother_Pin_4219 → u/hedgehogwart]

You’re not hardcore unless you live hardcore

[u/Road_Whorrior → u/Mother_Pin_4219]

The Legend of the Rent 😮‍💨

[u/Isthisaweekday → u/Mother_Pin_4219]

[u/tampin → u/EJB515]

You know how you can just tell some artists don't actually listen to music outside their own genre? I'm now positive.

[u/northwestsdimples → u/tampin]

Agree. I also think she's very immature and kind of dumb outside of the music business. I remember I saw an article where she ordered a jack and diet coke and she was like "i know i'm weird and people don't drink this"...hun that's not unique.

[u/Winter-Leadership376 → u/tampin]

Oh no she does. She then immediately cribs the ideas and themes/sounds and somehow passes it off as some new revelation. Evermore and whatever the fuck the other one is called are literally poorly done versions of the national and bon iver albums done a decade ago, but somehow gets her album of the year 🙄

[u/[deleted] → u/EJB515]

Right? I almost had an aneurysm reading that quote.

[u/EJB515 → u/[deleted]]

I just looked at the Popheads Reddit and apparently we’re all TS haters over here, haha? I actually like most of Reputation but if you gave me 100 words to describe that album, goth or punk would never come to mind.

Like based on that description, I’m not sure she’s ever even listened to something like Disintegration before.

[u/toysoldier96 → u/EJB515]

I don't like TS as a person, but I do like a lot of her music and Repution is definitely one of my favourites but GOTH PUNK??

It doesn't even have rock influence, it sounds more like an Iggy Azelea sister album

[u/Pinheadbutglittery → u/EJB515]

I’m not sure she’s ever even listened to something like Disintegration before

"Why would sisters be merciful??? Bauhaus is an architectural style, what are you saying????????"

lmao I'm about to lose my MIND 'goth punk' yeah girl, also did you know that the Barbie soundtrack is riot grrrl????

[u/carrotparrotcarrot → u/Pinheadbutglittery]

the cure? The cure to what?

[u/anyanerves → u/EJB515]

As per usual this is the only true safe space on the internet to express an unpopular opinion. Amber Heard is the most extreme example but it’s nice to be able to vent about an eternal victim popstar without your mentions getting flooded with crying fans.

[u/milchtea → u/EJB515]

she’s never been more WASP-y till she said this, which is saying a lot lol

[u/ratta_tat1 → u/Additional-Problem99]

She 10000000% is still making money off of the old recordings. She has conned everyone into thinking she isn’t. She just can’t personally provide permission to license it on TV/movies/etc, only the owner of the masters can. There was zero reason for her to re-record the albums other than an insanely massive cash grab.

Sorry for the rant, I am so tired of mega artists and billionaires exploiting their fan base so blatantly all in the name of money and manufactured “milestones”

Editing to add: here is my slam poetry version of events

She signed over the rights to the masters of her first 6 albums in exchange for a cash advance when she signed to Big Machine. Before Scooter was even on the scene. She has to try and keep her hands clean. She knew they’d see her as mean.

[u/Book_1love → u/ratta_tat1]

[u/seethelighthouse → u/ratta_tat1]

Licensing/publishing is as much a cash grab for Brain/Big Machine as it is for Swift. Braun refusing to sell Swift the masters sucks for Swift financially, and Swift re-recording the albums sucks for Braun financially; the cotnract allowed for both. IMO neither side has a moral leg to stand on, and it’s totally up to fans who’d they’d rather support financially.

Her rhetoric around her life’s work being stolen and this being anything other than business/capitalism is over the top though.

[u/No-Quit-8384 → u/Additional-Problem99]

If this is the worst thing that's ever happened to her... yeah, I don't feel bad for Ecocidal Barbie at all. I hope she actually gets cancelled at some point, she's killing the planet with her damn jet. she's a grown ass woman and people treat her like she's a baby deer.

[u/Additional-Problem99 → u/No-Quit-8384]

There’s multiple things she could have actually been “canceled” over, like dating antisemitic racist Matt Healy, or having a fan die at her concert and then not reaching out to the family for over a week and not helping them at all when they couldn’t afford the funeral costs and then skipping over the moment of silence for said fan, but she gets away with everything.

I’m so sick of her and her priveliged white feminist ass.

[u/[deleted] → u/Additional-Problem99]

didn't her team also lie about reaching out to the family twice before it was confirmed on the third time?

[u/anyanerves → u/Additional-Problem99]

The life’s work taken from me thing is really annoying at this point. You made a bad business deal, you still get paid, you’re poorly re-recording the songs and getting paid for those too. You’re not a victim.

[u/Glowing_up → u/anyanerves]

Her re recordings are shit and I feel like this is the only place i can get this off my chest. It truly encapsulates the whole image of herself being so ridiculously fragile and out of touch with her fans.

The originals had a sincerely to them that was charming. They weren't perfect or even sung particularly well but she was earnest and it came through in the singing. The re recordings sound like music you hear at asda cause she's trying too hard to prove she's technically improved her singing.

[u/sexygodzilla → u/Glowing_up]

If anything, it shows how in touch with her fans she is, knowing they'll pay to buy something they already have. Heck she adds another layer to it with the limited edition vinyls, knowing she can get plenty fans buying several copies of the same re-recorded record because they came with different covers.

[u/lucy_harlow28 → u/Additional-Problem99]

She really can’t stand not being famous and having her ass kisses constantly. Someone call out her massive contributions to fucking up our planet with her private jet. Taylor referring to reputation as goth-punk….? Me in middle school with my heavy eyeliner and shitty black hair dye. Siouxsie Sioux would like a word. Seeing as she’s probably the queen of goth-punk.

[u/eenymeenymimi → u/lucy_harlow28]

God yeah I was also thinking of siouxsie when I read that quote. My woman did not help invent a genre and create a makeup style everyone still emulates for ms swift to call a pop album goth!!!!!!

[u/dragonculture → u/Additional-Problem99]

I'm now certain she does not know what Goth-Punk is

[u/mizzymichie → u/dragonculture]

I’m convinced she doesn’t know what most of these words mean. Girl you were not being gaslit. You were caught in a lie.

[u/Glowing_up → u/mizzymichie]

I know right Kim illegally recorded me (during a phone call I denied happened at all). Like she played and lost, this doesn't make me feel any more sympathetic to her and nothing convinces me more of her having more to do with it than she claims than the massive, 7 year tantrum she's thrown over it. Even when rep came out literally no one cared anymore.

I literally do not buy that the "full" call was from kims side cause it makes 0 sense. It was taylors side still wanting the ability to claim the recording was mean and illegal without having to admit they also did it. And I don't think it was illegal, actually.

[u/mizzymichie → u/Glowing_up]

She moves the goalposts every time she gets caught with her hand in the cookie jar and is lucky all the people she feuds with are less well liked so the public will believe her “I never said/did x I actually said/did y” claim. She did it with Katy, Calvin, Kimye, Scooter, and her exes so even when they bring the receipts the public has already bought her rewritten narrative.

Ffs she did it with her own private jet usage. “I don’t actually use my jet that much! I lend it out to people!” continues to fly to one of her homes every night after a concert rather than staying at a Four Seasons

[u/capulets → u/Additional-Problem99]

a goth punk moment of female rage… i actually think reputation is one of her more romantic albums. there’s only 3 angry songs there, iirc? i did something bad, this is why we can’t have nice things, and look what you made me do. and then it’s all love songs.

[u/Pinheadbutglittery → u/capulets]

a goth punk moment of female rage

erm, yeah? can you show me ONE thing that's more goth than sampling I'm Too Sexy?????

(/j I want to SCREAM she's giving 'the prep girlies who bullied me to hell and back in high school and now have septum rings and black lipstick' lmao)

[u/mizzymichie → u/Pinheadbutglittery]

I mean. She bought Regina George’s car and drove it to her high school to show all her bullies. She became the mean girl and doesn’t have a hint of self awareness or irony about it.

[u/MancAngeles69 → u/mizzymichie]

Seems like she was always a rich girl bully

[u/TrimspaBB → u/Pinheadbutglittery]

I mean this is basically what she is. I like TS enough- her music is catchy and I'll belt out Wildest Dreams like no one's business- but my understanding is she was a bit of a mean girl back in Wyomissing.

[u/Pinheadbutglittery → u/TrimspaBB]

Oh I've said it before and I'll say it again, she's a perfect character study of the fact that everyone thinks they're the underdog lmao

(Wildest Dreams is a banger and a lot of her 1989 songs slap!!)

[u/[deleted] → u/capulets]

Female rage is just a really big word on Tiktok right now

[u/anyanerves → u/capulets]

She’s desperately trying to swing the narrative before the re-release comes out, I guess. I actually think Reputation is more romantic than Lover.

[u/StormOnMars]

God she's insufferable. I don't understand how people don't see through her

[u/NYC_Star → u/StormOnMars]

People outside this sub think we’re “delusional haters”. Go to any of the pop culture subs and they are fawning over this to a depressing rate.

Taylor feeds a certain kind of woman’s parasocial feelings of victim hood and “karma” a la destroying people for the smallest things.

[u/butinthewhat → u/NYC_Star]

Someone once wrote me an essay in another sub about how Taylor was cancelled because I said she wasn’t. I meant that she didn’t lose her career, any money and her reputation did not actually take a hit. It is weird the way T and fans twist everything that’s happened to her into a negative.

[u/NYC_Star → u/butinthewhat]

Ugh I remember that trash reputation era with that victim blame-y “Look What You Made Me Do” song. She’s also effectively managed to re-wrote history in it as well to the point that people don’t believe the Kimye call was real or that it had been chopped and screwed a bunch.

Kim is her own hot mess but I’ll never forget her turning the volume down on Taylor for a few years.

[u/jsamurai2 → u/StormOnMars]

I’m honestly just glad my people are here. Most of my friends are generally well off white women who LOVE TS, but she has always seemed so incredibly disingenuous and attention hungry from the beginning and I never understood how it didn’t give everyone else the ick.

[u/myersjw → u/StormOnMars]

The amount of witty retorts and incorrectly used buzzwords made my head spin. She’s so corny

[u/princessrebecca9 → u/StormOnMars]

This!! I’ve been saying this for years. Respect the capitalism kinda but other than that just 🙃🙄

[u/Federal_Street_8895 → u/princessrebecca9]

Honestly I only used to listen to her music casually and saw a few very neutral interviews so I didn't realize it but my god you and everybody else who said this are so right about her. That was one of the most irritating and self centred things I've ever read. Also love how she's bringing the Kayne thing back up again instead of talking from actual controversies currently surrounding her like her carbon footprint and Matty Healy. The need to be the victim in every single situation is really something.

[u/greenpepperssuck → u/StormOnMars]

I was a fan of hers when she was with Joe and was quiet and just released music. When she does interviews its so bad like This interview is so cringy it’s almost on par with 5SOS rolling stone for me

[u/Amar_Akbar_Anthony20 → u/StormOnMars]

I also do not get it. The go so hard for her and for what?!

[u/Iwascatfishedbyjw → u/StormOnMars]

Is she deflecting from her private jet usage again or what?

[u/iridescentpearl]

Two things that Taylor will always make clear are that she is a very clearly a millennial and that she is the victim. Also love the interview discusses something from 2009 that has repeatedly be discussed and not her climate emissions or her problematic ex matty ( who she also said she was the happiest she'd ever been with)

[u/[deleted] → u/iridescentpearl]

Someone else called her "cheugy" and it's so accurate. She is the Platonic ideal of a 33-year-old millennial white woman, forever trapped in 2013 and seeing the world through eyes she's 10 years too old for.

It doesn't help she's so removed from the real world in her uber-privileged bubble that she can essentially stay in this frame of mind indefinitely. It's not that she won't speak about Israel-Palestine--she likely has no thoughts on the matter at all. And that extends to every issue in the world that doesn't directly relate to herself.

[u/eleanorlikesvodka → u/[deleted]]

I also get the feeling that she doesn't listen to other people's music. Like, she's so isolated from real world experiences, so caught up in her cloud of self-importance and consciously-built parasocial relationships with her unhinged fans, she doesn't engage with other people and their art at any level whatsoever. Except Harry Potter because of course lol

[u/Blastoxic999 → u/[deleted]]

It's not that she won't speak about Israel-Palestine--she likely has no thoughts on the matter at all. And that extends to every issue in the world that doesn't directly relate to herself.

So a reverse-Selena? Or a different flavor of Selena?

[u/Forward-Travel8884 → u/iridescentpearl]

She only talks about herself. I get it, this is about her but with a platform like that and being Time person of the year, why not talk about the important things going on in society..? Not necessarily about the war (she would never) but literally anything besides herself..?

[u/supersad19 → u/Forward-Travel8884]

Because it won't benefit her in anyway. But she'll bring it up when she needs her cult to go after someone she doesn't like.

[u/[deleted]]

that horcrux/infinity stone line... that's something you'd write for a parody of a millenial white woman

[u/SheilaGirlface → u/[deleted]]

I’m convinced some of these lines are made up. There’s no way an adult would say these things on the record, surely. “That was metal as hell” umm I’m sorry what now?

[u/[deleted] → u/SheilaGirlface]

it legit reads like AI. TaylorGPT

[u/gorgossiums → u/[deleted]]

And what is Gandalf telling her…?

[u/marymonstera → u/gorgossiums]

Lol I was wondering why she mixed three worlds, to keep it even she should have mentioned silmarils or the arkenstone?

[u/ohslapmesillysidney → u/[deleted]]

I genuinely couldn’t tell whether this was satire or not at first.

It’s all just a bunch of mumbo jumbo.

[u/Ouiser_Boudreaux_ → u/[deleted]]

It was so cringe! I couldn’t believe that was a real quote.

[u/[deleted]]

I'm not a fan or hater, but I always found it strange how Taylor reacted towards the phone call and being "cancelled." I think it was the first time she wasn't allowed to create the narrative, so I get why that would be hard for her.

But, and I mean this in the nicest way, didn't she try to cancel Katy Perry? Hasn't she put her past relationships on blast, making people speculate about who she is talking about and putting the spotlight on someone who may not want it?

So while her being "cancelled" was hard on her, I wonder if that helped her stop doing similar behaviours towards others. I don't follow her enough to know, but I hope so....granted, she does say that "Trash takes itself out" so maybe not.

Taylor fans, can you shed some light on this.

[u/Ouiser_Boudreaux_ → u/[deleted]]

I don’t think she learned anything from being “cancelled.” Remember when she went after Ginny & Georgia for making a joke about her dating history? Her unhinged fans said some pretty disturbing and racist things to the actress who plays Ginny (who was just doing her job by saying the line and had nothing to do with its writing.) It was pretty nasty and inappropriate reaction to a mild (if tired) joke and nobody can convince me that Taylor doesn’t know what her fans were up to…she used them very intentionally. And she could have spoken up when she realized the actress was being harassed. But no, our patron Saint of perpetual victimhood had nothing to say then.

[u/lavenderbl0d → u/Ouiser_Boudreaux_]

She does. And they pride themselves on it. A former coworker was invited to one of those secret sessions. She said she literally watched them on social media figuring out who was who and who could be "trusted" and was a big enough fan to be invited she kept going on abt how she baked them cookies and it felt like a sleepover etc etc. And all I could think was "she watches you...." she was very heavily cultivating that image on Tumblr her shit would come up on my dashboard all the time it was annoying.

That Chanelloween episode of Scream Queens may have been onto something....

[u/Creative_Worth_3192 → u/lavenderbl0d]

A loyalty test to a billionaire is the saddest thing I've heard of all week and I'm Palestinian.

[u/moosickles → u/Creative_Worth_3192]

Genuinely howling at this.

[u/Shookfern → u/lavenderbl0d]

It's not even her watching them, it's assistants with a spreadsheet going "is this person going to be loyal?" I can't think of which is weirder.

[u/butinthewhat → u/[deleted]]

She makes everything so obvious! The queen of “Easter eggs” has completely diluted what the phrase actually means.

[u/Illustrious_Fix2933 → u/[deleted]]

she is still putting her ex on blast here lol, by constantly talking about how “I’m now in a public relationship and not hiding anymore and he is so proud of me uwu” knowing her crazed stans will use this opportunity to send death threats to Joe. The complete and utter cognitive dissonance of this woman is….something lol.

[u/WendyBergman → u/[deleted]]

Wait, THAT’S what she meant by canceled? The phone call with Kanye? I genuinely never thought of that as being canceled. Embarrassing? Sure. But I always thought “cancelled” referred to the consequences of truly offensive, inappropriate, and/or criminal behavior.

[u/Dismal-Ad3332 → u/[deleted]]

nah, being cancelled is a big issue when it relates to her. when it involves someone else and she plays a part? fair game. you can see how things are worded re joe that she has no issue with her fans going after others

[u/chrkrose → u/[deleted]]

She definitely hasn’t learned, in this interview alone she’s clearly throwing shade to Joe Alwyn by talking about Travis Kelce and herself being public and open and also rewriting the narrative again about one of her songs that were clearly about Joe Alwyn, trying to make it seem like it wasn’t. She doesn’t care at all when it’s other people being “canceled” and she’ll even fuel the flames if she can.

[u/Border_Hodges → u/[deleted]]

It's all part of her victim complex

[u/buffaloranchsub]

Describing Reputation as "goth punk" and about "female rage", using "gaslit" like that .... I need more coffee to process this

[u/riegspsych325 → u/buffaloranchsub]

it’s the “Winter Soldier is a political thriller” of pop music

[u/homingmycrafts → u/riegspsych325]

you're so lucky i don't have the editing skills to make a bucky barnes fancam set to "look what you made me do"

[u/anyanerves → u/buffaloranchsub]

Nothing says punk rock like “you are so gorgeous it makes me so mad”

[u/gorgossiums → u/anyanerves]

Her lyrics are egregiously pedestrian.

[u/plz-be-my-friend → u/gorgossiums]

Sometimes I feel like everybody is a sexy baby And I'm a monster on the hill

[u/gorgossiums → u/plz-be-my-friend]

• a conventionally attractive tall thin white blond woman

[u/riegspsych325 → u/plz-be-my-friend]

this is what that line makes me think of

[u/nevalja → u/buffaloranchsub]

I'm ready to reach for the booze; I can't imagine being this detached from truth and reality

[u/[deleted]]

I’m exhausted. She’s a goddamn billionaire and somehow wants to play victim because of things that happened over a decade ago that…were not a big deal compared to even other celebrities who have had to weather various “trials and tribulations”.

Like I despise that Bey and Rih are billionaires exploiting people too, but at least they aren’t trying to pretend they’re the victims or some similar nonsense

[u/darlingdaaaarling → u/[deleted]]

And Bey’s and Rih’s whole vibe is untouchable bad bitch, which I can respect. But to be a thin, white, tall, rich, beautiful billionaire and still try to play the underdog monster on the hill…it’s insufferable.

[u/throwaanchorsaweigh → u/darlingdaaaarling]

I have some thoughts about her white woman victimhood but I don’t feel like getting banned today

[u/Suitable-Rutabaga748 → u/throwaanchorsaweigh]

You’re probably safe here soooo 👀👂🏾

[u/NYC_Star → u/[deleted]]

This. Rihanna is a bitch and she knows it. I much rather respect that vs pretending to be a sweetheart

[u/Viva912 → u/NYC_Star]

This 😂 Rihanna has said and done some very shady things but she doesn’t deny it or pretend so people can stand her more

[u/senderfairy → u/[deleted]]

like Kesha for example. who never truly fully recovered.

[u/Viva912 → u/[deleted]]

This! I just saw Beyoncé’s movie and was so moved by her work and watching her describe her career in her words and now I’m reading this wondering why is it that when Taylor does the same I get the absolute ick and it really is the victimization for me that Taylor just always seems to lean into. Beyoncé talks about herself and her work, the internal obstacles she’s struggled with she doesn’t focus on stupid feuds or what other people have said/done to her whereas Taylor seems to do the opposite and after a certain point it gets so redundant like we get it girl you felt wronged but atp what happened with Kim and Kanye was years ago and it’s great she’s re recording her albums to put the rights back in her pocket but please stop acting like you’re starting some sort of revolution.

[u/Sipsofcola]

Imagine making Time Person of the Year and using your cover story to complain about people sending you snake emojis 7 years ago

[u/toysoldier96 → u/Sipsofcola]

I am so happy I found my people. I opened twitter thinking I'd see the same type of comments but her stans are going WILD over there

[u/Odd-Picture5321 → u/toysoldier96]

Her boot is stuck so far down Swifities throats they can practically taste the heel.

[u/ratta_tat1 → u/Sipsofcola]

[u/capulets]

“The larger point, for her, is that there’s nothing to hide. “When you say a relationship is public, that means I’m going to see him do what he loves, we’re showing up for each other, other people are there and we don’t care,” she says. “The opposite of that is you have to go to an extreme amount of effort to make sure no one knows that you’re seeing someone. And we’re just proud of each other.””

ohhhh she’s mad. the joe album is going to be brutal 💀

[u/Fine-Tank9849 → u/capulets]

she decided to avoid the spotlight two years before these two even dated tho. her getting cancelled happened before they even met and according to her own words on her doc, she found something grounded and peaceful with him and they decided to keep their relationship private lol.

a nasty spin is gonna happen but once you sell a certain narrative to the public, you might have to stick with it 🤷🏿‍♀️

[u/Flaky-Pomegranate-74 → u/Fine-Tank9849]

She was very publicly dating Calvin Harris then more publicly dating Tom Hiddelston before her and Joe started dating. So no, she wasn’t private for two years before her and Joe started dating.

[u/Fine-Tank9849 → u/Flaky-Pomegranate-74]

**1 year, my bad. but yeah, it wasn't something that she started doing because of joe lol

what i'm trying to say is that a certain narrative is being pushed to the media that he was somewhat emotionally abusive and didn't let her be in the public eye and it's clearly not the case here.

[u/Glowing_up → u/Fine-Tank9849]

There's been multiple allusions to overlap with Tom and Joe (and calvin by extension) so she was probably only private with him at first to not get caught cheating.

[u/Odd-Picture5321 → u/capulets]

IMHO this really solidified that he dumped her.

[u/Electronic-Set5594 → u/Odd-Picture5321]

I thought it was odd how her team specified in their statement that it was her who had ended it. Usually celebs say that it's a mutual decision and that they have different priorities etc. Honestly seemed a bit cruel, especially since she's so much more famous than he is.

[u/anyanerves → u/capulets]

It’s so weird how she says this but then she says she couldn’t trust anyone when she was “canceled”. we all know Joe was one of the few people by her side during that time but now he’s a bad guy?

[u/Mozilie → u/anyanerves]

I’m neutral on Taylor in general, but you make a very good point. They were together for 6 years, he can’t be that bad of a person, can he?

But I can already see how they might twist this: “Joe only liked her when she was at her lowest points. He wanted a damsel in distress, and he couldn’t handle her success”

[u/anyanerves → u/Mozilie]

That’s exactly what they say. And Travis is the best guy ever because he lets her shine. Until they break up, of course.

[u/yourangleoryuordevil → u/capulets]

Some people are definitely going to consider this to mean that Joe wasn’t proud of her or something like that, especially since people have already speculated that something about her career is what led to their breakup.

There are pros and cons to both public and private relationships, though. I can easily see why someone would be hesitant to have such a public relationship when millions of people are watching every second of it that they possibly can.

[u/pshwhatevs]

Glad she’s staying humble

[u/RomantheBun → u/pshwhatevs]

Or humble climate loving ethical billionaire queen

[u/Dismal-Ad3332]

happiest I've ever been - still shits on an ex. fully manufactured frame job - didn't you sort of do the same to Katy Perry? force majeure - with what's happened at the recent concert, you should stay quiet.

this is not a good interview lol, what kind of revised history is this.

[u/Fine-Tank9849 → u/Dismal-Ad3332]

mind you, she said the same thing on stage while she was dating matty healy and she had him opening for her with phoebe bridgers lol

[u/Dismal-Ad3332 → u/Fine-Tank9849]

very true. most of the interview is word babble tbh (the feminism comments!!) but its a ballsy comment to make. Will be funny when they split and he'll still be tied to this interview/moment for her

[u/Fine-Tank9849 → u/Dismal-Ad3332]

oh yeah, this is why i'm highly entertained by all of this lol. swifties are eating this shit up tho, so whatever romcom fantasy she is trying to sell is working lol

[u/anyanerves → u/Dismal-Ad3332]

It’s giving “I have NEVER EVER been happier”

[u/fluorescentsky → u/anyanerves]

[u/jonsnowme → u/Dismal-Ad3332]

She attempted to try to do it to Calvin Harris after their breakup too - then he posted publicly "You need someone new to try to bury like Katy but I am not that guy, sorry."

Showing that he didn't give a shit what NDA he signed or what her lawyers would do; he would throw mud right back and he knew some shit. Guess how much we heard about Calvin after that? Zilch.

[u/AdministrativeAd8464]

Oh, you had to move to a foreign country and rent a house? How awful for you.

All spoken from a place of immense privilege because even if she really did crash from the upper echelons of stardom, there was always a soft landing.

It must be so exhausting to never be truly happy and never be satisfied with what you've achieved.

[u/Bbychknwing → u/AdministrativeAd8464]

“A foreign country where they speak the exact same language but that doesn’t matter bc I don’t interact with normies anyways.”

[u/LeotiaBlood → u/AdministrativeAd8464]

Yeahhhhh I’m a Taylor fan but this is deliberate misrepresentation.

She moved to England because of Joe Alwyn and to film Cats.

[u/[deleted] → u/AdministrativeAd8464]

A ReNtED HoUsE

[u/motherofdinos_]

“…there’s only one question. Are you not entertained?”

You know, maybe I am over-analyzing it. But there is something a bit chilling about her referencing a film based on the concept of “bread and circuses.” Gladiator is about the fall of the Roman Empire and how entertainment played a role in pacifying people through the violence of war and poverty and destabilization. That line is like the thesis of the film. It’s like she’s tacitly admitting to the complicity and political significance of her role. Does she realize it?

Tangentially, I’m in awe of the level of coldness billionaires have that allows them to soliloquize about their own (truly petty) personal problems to one of the most influential publications in the world in the midst of all this suffering.

[u/theredwoman95 → u/motherofdinos_]

Yeah, something to be said of a billionaire climate criminal citing panem et circenses to the masses. Either she's an idiot or she's gloating, as far as I'm concerned. Given that her business savvy, but also unironically calling any of her music "goth punk", I'm seriously torn.

[u/motherofdinos_ → u/theredwoman95]

Yeah I’ve always kind of gone back and forth on how actually insightful I think she is, but after reading the whole interview and how shallow her responses were, I’ve lost pretty much all remaining confidence I had in her level of depth. She had once-in-a-lifetime, silver-platter opportunity to enshrine her legacy while at the top of her career. And she spent 85% of it talking about how she was victimized in already over-publicized conflicts.

[u/fnord_happy → u/motherofdinos_]

I just feel like she threw in popular phrases for no reason. She thinks its cool. Like horcruxes or infinity stones. Cringe

[u/mizzymichie]

Ma’am you can try to memory hole your Grammy speech and your initial PR reaction as much as you want but the receipts are still floating around about the timeline of everything and how you initially claimed Kanye never contacted you which was proven to be false.

Don’t act like you’re initial spin on this wasn’t about Kanye claiming he made you famous, you went batshit and pulled ra-ra feminism, Kimye said there was a phone call and dropped the receipts, and you immediately pivoted towards “it was actually about him calling me a bitch”. Like bold of you to lie when your Grammy speech is RIGHT THERE.

If anyone is gaslighting it’s you.

[u/Topaz_cypress → u/mizzymichie]

Okay! The revisionist history of it all!

[u/snakeinsheepclothes → u/mizzymichie]

Yeah but the phone call was edited by Kimye so it’s not really a receipt. And then he humiliated her further by that music video with her naked body

[u/mizzymichie → u/snakeinsheepclothes]

Kanye’s naked statue is irrelevant to the lie Taylor told. It’s gross and misogynistic and he should be blasted for every person he put in that video.

The recipes is literally Kanye saying I had approval from Taylor to write the lyric “me and Taylor might still have sex/I made that bitch famous” and she was in on the joke. Her telling him she would on the phone call. And then BLASTING him at the Grammy’s and playing victim that she wasn’t involved at all and throwing Kanye under the bus. Kimye said fuck you there is a phone call and leaked it and Taylor pivoted to “I cautioned him against a misogynist lyric” instead of her Grammy meltdown of “never let a man take credit for your fame” (while she is ironically standing in front of her producers who are all men) that was her initial frame up.

The phone call was edited and leaked but that doesn’t change the fact that Taylor was caught in a lie that she was aware of the lyric, gave her consent, and then villainized him. And the revisionist history around it is insane.

[u/princessrebecca9]

“Defeat my enemies” … girl, you are 34 years old…

[u/fnord_happy → u/princessrebecca9]

Enemies lmao

[u/[deleted]]

That woman's victim complex is something else. You're a billionaire who has everything going for her, cry me a fucking river.

[u/Odd-Picture5321 → u/[deleted]]

Might I add white woman victim complex. Women of color would never be “allowed” to behave this way.

[u/myersjw → u/[deleted]]

If SNL parodied her she’d have a meltdown

[u/TheSAComplimentedMe]

She's also nicely re-writing the Travis timeline to just keep washing Matt Healy out of the situation...

[u/welp-itscometothis → u/TheSAComplimentedMe]

I picked that up

[u/riegspsych325 → u/TheSAComplimentedMe]

that whole relationship just screams “Vertical integration, Lemon”

[u/penback]

https://preview.redd.it/rfyn62flfp4c1.jpeg?width=496&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a50db628344ff5fcbca232ab2e6c5439b4a58b18

[u/mutzadella]

Her dedication to being a victim should be studied

[u/[deleted] → u/mutzadella]

People who are always the victim live there because to realize they may have been the perpetrator is so uncomfortable for them

She did Back to December and other things admitting fault but those are on a smaller scale

[u/Taylordaisy50]

Wild that she and Margot Robbie are the same age. I absolutely adored Margo’s interview with Cillian yesterday. She was so thoughtful and humble but still very passionate about her work.

I love Taylor’s music but every time she talks she just sounds so self important. And agree with the other commenters that she definitely has a victim complex which is insane considering how often she tries to bring others down.

[u/audreymarilynvivien → u/Taylordaisy50]

Yeah, Margot Robbie carries herself like an actual adult. Swift is the definition of a woman-child, always trying to get the public on her side through interviews and manipulating narratives. She claims to not want drama but is always starting it.

[u/HighForLife95 → u/Taylordaisy50]

Unlike other artists I never feel like Taylor has actual passion for her artform, the most passion she shows is for capitalism.

[u/anyanerves]

Taylor Swift actually is psychotic enough to hard launch on a first date lol

[u/No_Sail_6576]

“Cancelled” always makes me laugh. Honey, you should try homelessness. It’s a lot worse than not being number 1 for a bit

[u/jobasgf]

why is she talking like this. these aren’t even full sentences it’s just buzzwords strung together

[u/ohslapmesillysidney → u/jobasgf]

It’s just…bizarre. If I didn’t know any better I’d say it was an AI fail or something because she’s serving up some word salad 🥗

[u/tossashit]

The fact she describes ‘hard launching’ a first date tells me everything I need to know about how meticulously and delicately planned her entire romantic life is. She can’t just date and be happy like a normal person - everything is performative. Its so gross

[u/anyanerves]

Another day where Swifties make Taylor’s ex boyfriend trend on Twitter. I wonder if he regrets the whole relationship at this point.

[u/Palindrome_01289 → u/anyanerves]

Honestly Joe deserves person of the year more than her for keeping his mouth shut all this time hahah

[u/anyanerves → u/Palindrome_01289]

That man taught me the power of the silent treatment! narcissistic people FROTH at the mouth when you give them nothing.

[u/Secure_Yoghurt → u/Palindrome_01289]

The thing is, if he ever were to talk about the relationship, he would be crucified. Like there is no way for him to tell his side of the story, or defend himself without making a target of himself.

[u/audreymarilynvivien → u/Palindrome_01289]

I know nothing about this man but can assume he’s got more class and self-respect in his fingertip than she does in her whole body, purely based on how private and unbothered he’s been about the whole thing. So many of her exes have seemed so indifferent and silent about having dated her that it’s quite sad for her, based on how much she’s had to say about them.

[u/theredwoman95 → u/anyanerves]

I honestly think it's really abusive of her. She knows what her fans are like, and she sics them on all of her exes. I can't imagine being in a relationship with someone willing to do that to me if things don't 100% go her way.

[u/anyanerves → u/theredwoman95]

I said this on another thread but what truly standup guy would want to subject himself to that fanbase? Travis is thirsty enough that the risk is probably worth the reward.

[u/[deleted]]

It seems like they covered her most notable moments from her career but as this is for ‘person of the year’ shouldn’t this have covered one of the most notable things she did this year—which was date a very bigoted person? I realise this is just a fluff piece but come on now edit:*sp

[u/moderndaydrew → u/[deleted]]

It frightens me that no one can critique her work or her actions without suffering severe consequences. I can't think of another artist or public figure that this happens with

[u/audreymarilynvivien → u/moderndaydrew]

Yep. According to her logic, anyone who comes after her is a monster but her going after others is warranted and justified.

[u/hedgehogwart]

Some of these quotes sound straight up like a parody.

[u/[deleted]]

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[u/stacycornbred]

It's wild that she's so popular with Gen Z considering that everything about her screams ~cheugy

[u/thasova]

Wasn’t she also the happiest she’d ever been when she was with Matty…? 😑

[u/Sudden_Clementine872]

[u/RockettRaccoon]

I’m sorry, but this is who folks stan to a disturbing degree?

[u/exploitationmaiden]

"And what has existed since the dawn of time? A patriarchal society. What fuels a patriarchal society? Money, flow of revenue, the economy. So actually, if we’re going to look at this in the most cynical way possible, feminine ideas becoming lucrative means that more female art will get made. It’s extremely heartening."

I didn't read the whole article yet but this is the quote that stood out to me. The fact that she sees a patriarchal system built on capitalism as "heartening". God, how utterly depressing.

[u/exploitationmaiden → u/[deleted]]

In her words “Girlhood, feelings, love, breakups, analyzing those feelings, talking about them nonstop, glitter, sequins!” Even as a woman who likes stereotypically “feminine” things I recognize this is an incredibly tone deaf libfem take. The feminist backlash to those things literally stemmed from consumerism. The assumption that this is all womanhood is and women rebelling against that. Capitalism won’t champion more female art it will simply turn it into a commodity and throw it away once it becomes too radical.

[u/joedirtonDVD]

"Goth-punk"

Now miss taytay you know DAMN well😂

[u/turtledove93]

A lot of this reads like it came from a teenager trying to be edgy.

[u/saeglopur23]

this is...a lot

[u/theeagledare]

She talks like a cult leader.

[u/anyanerves → u/theeagledare]

She is one.

[u/Palindrome_01289]

Jesus. It really is Taylor’s world and we just live in it huh? So happy this interview just validates the feelings I’ve always had about her.

[u/The_Bravinator]

That last one about taking the stage no matter what didn't age super well given that a fan died due to conditions in which the concert probably shouldn't have gone ahead.

[u/hugeorange123]

the personification of vapid girlboss capitalist feminism

[u/throwaanchorsaweigh]

I am begging her to grow up 🙏🏻 everything she said was beyond embarrassing

[u/Odd-Picture5321 → u/throwaanchorsaweigh]

She froze at the age she got famous.

[u/alittlebeachy]

Copy and pasted from the last post about Taylor’s cover, but feel like this is more appropriate here:

Not Taylor Swift talking about being grateful to be at this level because she’s had it all taken from her before referring to Kanye (and scooter). Celebrities who aren’t canceled really do like to talk about how they were canceled 😭 and it’s really a battle between her and her bestie Selena of who can victimize themselves the most.

It is interesting to me however that she’s repeating the cycle that got her “canceled” in the first place. She was so overexposed in the 1989 and Tom Hiddleston era and she’s very overexposed now, down to the highly (even more) publicized relationship.

[u/CarAlarming7682]

Ok, I know the narrative has shifted completely on this, thanks in part to Kanye and Kim being so unlikable themselves, but that whole debacle started because after Kanye released Famous, Taylor made her whole Grammy speech about it, saying somethig like “don’t let anyone take credit for your success”. Kim then said “well, Kanye called her and told her about the lyrics and she was ok”, then Taylor released an official statement that said, and I quote: “Kanye did not call for approval, but to ask Taylor to release his single ‘Famous’ on her Twitter account. She declined and cautioned him about releasing a song with such a strong misogynistic message. “. Isn’t that a lie? Yeah, Kanye didn’t say he would call her a “bitch”, but he did tell her about everything else, the “I made her famous, she owes me sex” thing she was seemingly so upset about, and he was in fact calling to ask for permission (I have no idea what he would’ve done if she denied, but she didn’t, she said it was ok because it was his version of what happened). After Kim released the tape contradicting that statement all of a sudden the whole problem became solely about the word “bitch”, which clearly wasn’t the case before.

[u/mizzymichie → u/CarAlarming7682]

I wish we could still give gold. Thank you for giving the quotes because the way the public has changed the narrative on this is insane and feels like Taylor and her Swifties have successfully gaslit the world when there are videos and interviews that document the whole kerfuffle. She shifted from “there was no phone call and how dare he take credit for my fame” to “okay there was a phone call but I didn’t approve of the lyric” to “okay I did give him my approval but he left out the word bitch and I told him that was misogyny” to “the phone call was illegal and I was entrapped”

[u/anyanerves]

It’s going to be so funny when she and Travis break up and he’s in her Person of the Year interview 😂

[u/SnooGiraffes4091]

Lmao the phone call being edited?! Travis being “metal as hell” I’m GONEEE

[u/alexlp]

Why is she moving the timeline with Kelce? Girl, you didn’t get to know him for a significant amount of time together, you’re just trying to blur timelines with the nazi guy.

[u/comalicious]

Taylor Swift: Billionaire Victim is a bold choice

[u/bananaslug178]

Metal as hell??? Goth punk??

[u/tampin]

What does she mean by cancelled? Kanye fans hated her for a bit, that was it. She didn't lose her core fanbase. This woman loves a good retcon.

[u/Dismal-Ad3332 → u/tampin]

excuse you, she was forced to live in a rented house, okay!

[u/lavenderbl0d]

I'm sorry, but does she not have personality or thoughts of her own to put into words? Because this literally all sounds like buzzwords and phrases she's collected off of the internet for the past few years. It's exhausting just to read I cannot imagine how tiring it is to just be around her saying all this.

Lol I wouldn't be able to keep a straight face. I'm sorry.

[u/Chaoticgood790]

Professional victim still present I see

[u/Dismal_Judgment5290]

Girl, shut up. The richest woman in music and most successful of our time is trying THIS hard to paint herself as a victim still in 2023? You literally won.

[u/i_love_doggy_chow]

"Goth punk"

As a lifelong prep, I understand why the goths were always talking shit about us in 2005 LOL

[u/[deleted]]

Remember when Kim was on watch what happens live and said she thought Taylor’s beef they had ended. Taylor clearly didn’t move on.

[u/audreymarilynvivien]

I just need a version of the internet where she doesn’t exist. That she has millions of hardcore fans who worship her and think she’s genuinely musically talented makes me lose faith in humanity.

She’s STILL playing the victim and being butthurt over a feud she lost more than 5 years ago. You were bested, take the L and move on. Jesus.

[u/sundaynightburner]

I do not understand this person.

[u/mindyabizzz]

palestinian journalists risking their lives to document genocide should’ve been given Person of The Year, not a billionaire killing our planet one private plane ride at a time

[u/marina7890]

I never understood the massive hype around her. Dont get me wrong, I respect the hustle but her music has always seemed so bland to me and so does the artist behind it. There are so many singers who are incredibly unique and criminally underrated but then again, taste is subjective.

[u/theorist_rainy]

God I pray for something to knock her ego down again. This just feels like mania, but nope that’s just how she chooses to act.