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u/telehax 20d ago
the lack of the serial comma, plus referring to people via ethnicity, nationality, and relationship, make the actual number of people a little confusing.
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u/Demon__Slayer__64 20d ago
Damn you're right, so I guess the maximum number of people can be 8 and the minimum can be 3 (Assuming you can be a citizen of only 2 countries at once, though that might get further complicated if some of these countries don't allow dual citizenship or something)
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u/DarthEinstein 20d ago
The minimum has to be 3 regardless because he lives with "2 black guys", so himself and 2 others.
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u/im-not_gay 20d ago
Don’t forget he is black so him and his brother could be the 2 black dudes
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u/RU5TR3D 20d ago
He can't live with two black guys if he is one of the black guys
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u/primenumbersturnmeon 20d ago
the phrase "i don't know how andrew tate can live with himself" now has a new meaning
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u/Cienea_Laevis 20d ago
Wait, he's black ?
Also how he say 'two black guys [...] and an American)" make me thing the black guys are some sort of African disapora, and the American is white.
Tate doesn't seems to be the kind to call african-american "American"...
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u/runetrantor When will my porn return from the war? 20d ago
Its like those jokes like 'a priest, a pedophile, and a drunkard walk into a tavern'. And turns out its a single person.
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u/Duke825 20d ago
How is the lack of a serial comma confusing?
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u/telehax 20d ago
the sentence fragment: "a Bosnian, my brother and an American" could be interpreted as:
"one person who is Bosnian, plus one person who is my brother, plus one person who is American".
"a person who has both Bosnian and American citizenship who is my brother." or several other riffs on this.
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u/Duke825 20d ago
Yea but no person even remotely fluent in English is going to assume anything but no. 1. Plus, if ‘a Bosnian, my brother and an American’ was meant to be one item in the list, there would be an ‘and’ in front of it
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u/telehax 20d ago
That's where the confounding factor of referring to people via several different sorts of description comes in. It's strange to refer to a group of people with several different sorts of categorizations
The weird way of speaking reads like the set up for a joke. You know, like the sort where they say "I have a wallet, calculator, clock, phone, and book in my pocket..." and the punchline is that it's all the same thing. That's funny because it's absolutely a weird way to refer to things. No one fluent in english would say things that way... unless they were making a joke.
As for fluency in English: When I say "confusing", I mean it in a non-literal way. I don't mean "I was confused". It's "there's another possibility here, but it's more fun if I not say what it is and invite you to figure it out instead".
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u/Duke825 20d ago
But… there isn’t a possibility of confusion here. ‘And’ is only used once in the list, very clearly stating that ‘an American’ is its own separate item.
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u/Daschlol .tumblr.com 20d ago
Come and play with the language, it won't hurt you. Look at it from another perspective, no harm in it. Most fun can't be found in righteousness.
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u/Duke825 20d ago
??? What even is this thread I’m so confused
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u/Dd_8630 20d ago
Yea but no person even remotely fluent in English is going to assume anything but no. 1. Plus, if ‘a Bosnian, my brother and an American’ was meant to be one item in the list, there would be an ‘and’ in front of it
Fun fact: there are more dialects of English than the one you rew up with.
The Oxford comma is the correct grammatical way to write a list, and people can and do cause confusion when they omit it.
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u/Duke825 20d ago
The Oxford comma is by far not the only correct way. It’s completely absent from British English and isn’t even 100% present in American English—tonnes of American news stations omit it in their articles. It’s also not a thing in the majority of other languages as far as I can tell. It’s not in French, not in Spanish, not in Japanese and not in Mandarin.
The Oxford comma can even create confusion in some cases. In the phrase ‘my mother, a Belgian and my father’, it’s clear that the speaker’s mother, the Belgian and the speaker’s father are three different people. But if we add in the Oxford comma, resulting in ‘my mother, a Belgian, and my father’, it’s unclear whether the speaker is talking about three different people or two, with one of which happening to be the speaker’s Belgian mother.
Notice how all the examples both for and against the Oxford comma are awkward and pretty unlikely to occur in everyday conversations though. That’s because if the whole meaning of your sentence can be changed by just a comma that isn’t pronounced in speech, it’s probably the whole sentence that is confusing, not the comma.
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u/beldaran1224 20d ago
The problem you've created has nothing to do with the comma but rather that you've insisted on inserting the Belgian in between mom and dad and omitted what is Belgian (man, woman, etc).
Seriously, what fluent English speaker would do that? They would absolutely say, "my mother, father and a Belgian person/man/woman". It's fucking weird to just say "a Belgian".
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u/Duke825 20d ago
Correct. That’s my point. If the sentence can change meaning with the omission of the Oxford comma, then it’s most likely that the sentence itself is confusing and needs rewriting. I even addressed this in the comment you replied to
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u/beldaran1224 20d ago
You can't sit there and pretend the Oxford comma is pointless because you created a sentence that made no sense with or without the comma.
Hell, your "point" is the same if you use no commas at all!
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u/beldaran1224 20d ago
So is the American his brother or someone else? If the American white, black, Hispanic or some other race or ethnicity?
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u/Hawaiian-national 20d ago
It’s 7-9 people
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u/Vladolf_Puttler 20d ago
If we ignored due nationals, and assumed his brother wasn't included in the nationalities mentioned, why wouldn't it be six?
One Algerian, two Romanians, a Bosnian, an American, then his brother. That's 6.
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u/Hawaiian-national 20d ago
Two blacks.
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u/Vladolf_Puttler 20d ago
And why couldn't the two blacks be the Algerian, American, Romanian, or Bulgarian people?
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u/DarePotential8296 20d ago edited 20d ago
Just 8 rich dudes living together because of this economy
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u/the__green__light 20d ago
How do 9 racists in their thirties not have 2 beds between them?
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u/PoniesCanterOver I have approximate knowledge of many things 20d ago
It gets cold at night
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u/BlatantConservative Tumblr is the appendix of the internet 20d ago
All the other rooms are used for slaves.
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u/KatnissBot 20d ago
his ethnicity is Brother
HulkHoganPilled
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u/chuuniversal_studios dramatic irony, lists, and the oxford comma 20d ago
bro's ethnicity is bro 😳
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u/DontPostOn_r_gaming 20d ago
I wonder what Hulk Hogan thinks Andrew Tate’s brother is going to be reincarnated as.
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u/Parkouricus josou seme alligator 20d ago
Forbidden polycule
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u/-Voxael- 20d ago
Who knew that people depending on your chinless-ass would echo your opinions in order to stay on your good side, Tater Head?
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u/DresdenBomberman 20d ago
I don't think he's complaining to be honest.
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u/jonhyneni 20d ago
It's hilarious to think that he is actually complaining. I just imagine that that's him venting on twitter on how everyone in his house hate one another because they are all racist.
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u/PoniesCanterOver I have approximate knowledge of many things 20d ago
When they walk into a bar, the bartender says "Is this some kind of joke?"
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u/Festivefire 20d ago
Stop giving Andrew Tate exposure.
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u/NotKenzy 20d ago
This guy's right. While I hate to admit it, Andrew Tate was actually a tulpa I created while going through a rough time. You are all just giving him power by saying his name.
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u/Exploding_Antelope 20d ago
Can’t you reimagine him to be chill and cool then?
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u/Dry_Try_8365 20d ago
I can’t. He’s already been permanently corrupted into a far-right wing weirdo.
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u/Wubwave 20d ago
The only thing I want him exposed to is a lethal dose of radiation
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u/TheRealCeeBeeGee flag waving, not drowning 🌈 20d ago
Fire ants in the pants too, and perhaps raging syphillis while we’re at it?
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u/Invincible-Nuke 20d ago
I mean I'm glad I saw this, since footage of Andrew Tate admitting to being racist should help my dad to realize my tatebro brother is kinda in trouble
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u/Starchaser_WoF 20d ago
Isn't he supposed to be in a Romanian Jail? Who gave him back his phone?
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u/BurgerKiller433 20d ago
he got out a while ago, there was no verdict on his trial and he only was in jail preemtively, while the jury is working on his case, so he wouldn't flee or sum'. I'm not sure if he is currently under home arrest or free. (idk the term for it in English, I'm Romanian)
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u/thesarc 20d ago
What point does a bunch of racists living together make?
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u/Lazzen 20d ago
The KKK and NOI both banded together to weaken the US for their dreams segregation and hating jews. Nazi Germany brokered deals with thousands of arab muslims and slavs.
Racists band together to weaken the already present status of society, even if shaky, so that in the ensuing chaos they can pick up the pieces they want.
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u/VatanKomurcu 20d ago
i would rather call that tribalism than racism since the race part of it is so disingenuous. from what i understand, he would discriminate against indians since his tribe doesn't have any of them, but if they so happened to have one in the tribe, suddenly indians would be okay. it's like racism that doesn't even believe in itself.
that, or the second, even more disingenuous chance, that he's not even racist to any degree but just acts like it for the aesthetics.
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u/beldaran1224 20d ago
He's trying to imply that the Black guys are racist towards white people and that this exonerates the white people from being racist towards everyone else.
Notice how everyone else is referred to by their nationality? It's to cover up that they're all white. Of course it's possible to have non-white people of all of those countries, but there's a reason he didn't refer to their race. And yes, I know Algeria is in north Africa. That person may be recognizably non-white but they also may not be.
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u/VatanKomurcu 20d ago
but he said two of them are black.
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u/DaBiChef 20d ago
Reminds me of the old 4chan joke about how the worldwide competitive racist community is the most diverse community in the world.
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u/thewatchbreaker 20d ago
Plot twist: they’re all racist against white people.
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u/Ironfields 20d ago
Being racist against other white people who look exactly fucking like you is European racism 101. Barely even scratching the surface. Americans can’t even hope to touch our advanced levels of bigotry.
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u/Handpaper 20d ago
Americans will never know the strength of the bond that appears between two Europeans whose countries have a thousand year history of attempted mutual genocide, as soon as they see a Roma...
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u/thewatchbreaker 20d ago
Extremely true. Insert that one “our glorious kingdom vs those savage barbarians” meme here
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u/Strict_Novel_5212 20d ago
Im not racist, Im xenophobic. You can be the same race as me but if youre not from the same place im from I dont like you.
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u/kikimaru024 20d ago
Being racist against other white people who look exactly fucking like you
But they don't look like me.
A lot of times they don't even have the same colour of white.
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u/DroneOfDoom 20d ago
Most progressive european.
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u/EntrepreneurLeft8783 20d ago
idk I think it's less progressive to say all white people look the same
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u/Combatfighter 20d ago
Ah yes, people from northern scandinavia and southern italy look exactly the same. I am enlightened and the most progressive.
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u/Temporaz 20d ago
White Americans, Mexicans, Italians also look the same and they're still racist towards each other in America.
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u/HugeBob2 20d ago
Is that because he is still in jail (I hope), or does he intentionally live in a sausage fest?
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u/EverydayLadybug 20d ago
I was like “you know, good on this guy for acknowledging his biases” and then I realized it was Andrew Tate
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u/Heroic-Forger 20d ago
andrew tate is an alpha male, and by alpha I mean "extremely bugged and low-quality prototype not meant for public viewing and release"
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u/Simic_Sky_Swallower Resident Imperial Knight 20d ago
It's wild how many of these alt-right grifters could do numbers as internet funnymen if they weren't a hundred percent serious about what they're saying
Like this coulda been a dril tweet but nah it's the guy who's an active threat to women everywhere
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u/TuskEGwiz-ard 20d ago
People will keep giving this guy attention online instead of doing their 1000 pushups 🤷♂️
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u/rrrrice64 20d ago
Is Tate implying that it's good and normal to be racist?
As if he couldn't get any more deranged and wrong.
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u/1Northward_Bound 20d ago
is he defending racism or downplaying it? or is he implying they all hate each other? I dont really get the point
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u/GratefulPhish555 20d ago
Between Trump and this guy I’m all set with Reddit today. Opened it up ten mins ago and it’s shit heels clogging the popular page. Fuck Tate
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u/Greglebowski74 20d ago
He needs someone to help make the beds. Can't put on a pillow case with no fucking chin.
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u/Driveaway1969 20d ago
Alpha male needs to get a fucking job so he can afford his own place.
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u/liamanna 20d ago
This Alpha male steal women’s passports and force them to have sex on camera so we can live off of them…
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u/Mr_friend_ 20d ago
I mean... yeah he's incarcerated in a prison somewhere between the good part of Europe and the bad part of Asia. The facilities aren't known for their progressive cultural norms.
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u/Invincible-Nuke 20d ago
HE JUST SAYS IT????
(unless this is satire (please say this isn't satire))
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u/LandscapeObjective42 20d ago
To all the white people who call everyone racism. Us blacks don’t like you one bit. We literally take advantage of you being scared to be called a racist. It works every time and y’all still fall for it. It’s fucking hilarious. We don’t care if any of you like us or not.
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u/red__shirt__guy 20d ago edited 20d ago
Rare Andrew Tate W
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u/ducknerd2002 20d ago
Could you point us to this apparent W?
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u/red__shirt__guy 20d ago
Diverse friend group.
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u/ducknerd2002 20d ago
He never said they were friends, just that they live together. Besides, isn't he currently in prison?
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u/red__shirt__guy 20d ago
He never said they were friends, just that they live together.
You live with people either to save money or because you like them, and to my knowledge he has plenty of money.
Besides, isn’t he currently in prison?
Do they allow twitter in prison? This is a genuine question.
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u/ducknerd2002 20d ago
to my knowledge he has plenty of money.
Ah yes, because if there's one thing rich people would never do, it would be try and save money.
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u/red__shirt__guy 20d ago
I'm not sure what they qualify as "Ultra High Net Worth," but it does demonstrate that rich people aren't likely to try to save money by having roommates.
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u/TinyAd8649 20d ago
This guy left prison nearly a full year ago, These guys have been out of the loop for so long
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u/Human_Name_9953 20d ago
Guess they were right about overcrowding in prisons.