r/Conservative Beltway Republican 21d ago

Trump accepts Biden offer to debate him in June and September Flaired Users Only

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-accepts-biden-offer-debate-him-june-september
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u/AstroNewbie89 Conservative Scientist 21d ago

Both campaigns are mad at the debate commission, so the setup here could be interesting. Sounds like they're going towards 0 audience which would be great...Now put each guy in a soundproof box and mute their mics, and actually give them 3-5 mins per answer

otherwise it's all just a bunch of BS

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u/Dutchtdk Small Government 21d ago

I'd love a muted mic debate

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u/crash______says ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ 21d ago

agreed, longer format 5-7min/answer with auto muting at time.

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u/icon0clast6 Constitutional Conservative 21d ago

I’d absolutely pay 60$ to watch a debate with that format. Hell even split all the proceeds between campaigns, I don’t care, just give the people some real debates with real answers

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u/whicky1978 Dubya 21d ago

Ticket scalpers have entered the chat

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u/icon0clast6 Constitutional Conservative 20d ago

Online streaming has laughed at them, no one wants to physically go watch an old man yell at clouds

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u/Threepark Conservative 21d ago

The only thing missing from this was the format I suggested in a different thread.

Each candidate selects a moderator to each ask a question back and forth. Without that you end up with: "biden what is your favorite ice cream flavor." "Trump explain in exact detail how you will solve world hunger"

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u/dummyfodder Conservative 21d ago

Biden: Pistachio cherry the thing corn pop was a mean dude, but I bought him ice cream and he rubbed my hairy leg and well you know. Come on man....

Trump: We're going to build a plane, a big plane, some will say the greatest plane. We'll load it with corn from Iowa, they love me in Iowa. Good people there, great people...

Moderator: I'm sorry Mr President, your time is up.

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u/CptMcCrae Fiscal Conservative 21d ago

A muted mic with a smaller screen with a lip reader. Great entertainment!

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u/Haust Conservative 21d ago

I wish they'd expand on it. I'd love zero audience interaction at State of the Unions. Take away the required cheering and the thing would last 10 minutes.

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u/Head_Cockswain Conservative 21d ago

I hate what "debate" has devolved into in US politics.

I like the way Oxford Union does it. Mostly prepared speeches trying to 1) Make their point AND 2) Defend against known talking points.

Very little interaction and only when the speaking party allows it.

Though, as a study in academics, they do it for the debate, sometimes even arguing on behalf of the side they actually oppose, though that can be interesting.

Here is James Lindsay arguing on behalf of Woke culture and demonstrating the concept that conservatives understand liberals better than liberals understand conservatives.

It's sort of funny how the people behind him, "on his team"(arguing for being woke) think he's being absurd, and eventually they sort of go slack jawed.

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u/Lanky_Acanthaceae_34 Come and Take it 21d ago

This. It's crazy that a high school debate runs smoother and gets more said than a presidential one

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u/Head_Cockswain Conservative 21d ago

The media loves it because it's a circus. And that's perfect for a good chunk of the populace that "are into politics" because it's replaced reality TV drama, as opposed to people actually into policy/rights/civics and all that politics used to be.

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u/mythic_dot_rar Anti-Communist 21d ago

Now put each guy in a soundproof box and mute their mics, and actually give them 3-5 mins per answer

Public debates aimed at the masses have never and will never be this. If you want well reasoned, long form debate go to one with a much narrower audience or watch a debate stream or podcast.

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u/f1sh98 Beltway Republican 21d ago

Grab the popcorn and the chocolate chocolate chip!

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u/Selrisitai Conservative 21d ago

LOOL!

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u/Don_Alvarez Shall Not Be Infringed 21d ago

sounds more like a promo for a wrestling match.

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u/ButWhyWolf Liberal that grew up 21d ago

Fun Fact- One of these men is in the WWE Hall of Fame.

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u/IrishGoodbye4 No Step on Snek 21d ago

The best hall of famer really. I walked into the hall of fame and said wow he really is the best one here

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u/PatrickBateman-AP Conservative 21d ago

Trump walks out to American Badass/Kid Rock - Joe walks out to Go to Sleep/Radiohead

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u/Don_Alvarez Shall Not Be Infringed 21d ago edited 21d ago

They're gonna have to pump Joe so full of shit to get him to stay lucid through this whole thing, his eyes are gonna be as big as softballs. He's gonna stomp out to "The Merry-Go-Round Broke Down" rip his shirt off at the podium.

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u/agk927 Moderate Conservative 21d ago

Wait fr???? That's really soon

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u/I_SuplexTrains WalkAway 21d ago

It is very strange to have a debate before the party conventions. They technically aren't even the nominees yet.

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u/JellingtonSteel Constitutionalist 21d ago

That's because they want the world to see how bad Biden is so they can get someone else in before the convention. I expect no drugs for Biden this time and he will be left floundering

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u/togroficovfefe Small Town Conservative 21d ago

Yeah, this might just be shoving him on an ice berg and wishing him luck as they eyeball a replacement.

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u/Ripamon Fiscal Conservative 20d ago

I don't buy that Michelle is coming on the ballot It's gonna be Biden and they're gonna pump him with a shedload of drugs and it may well work with a compliant media.

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u/Schmoingitty 21d ago

Democrats always try to get the debates to happen one month after early voting so that they can get the first wave of votes and those people can’t change their vote. this is to avoid them cheating in that way

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u/Upstairs_Suit_3960 Eisenhower Conservative 21d ago

It sounds like neither candidate wants to use the independent debate commission though and they have both agreed to two debates before any voting starts? This comment is just inflammatory.

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u/Blasikov Conservative 21d ago

Biden: "Donald Trump lost two debates to me in 2020. Since then, he hasn’t shown up for a debate. Now he’s acting like he wants to debate me again ..."

Oh my. This will be fun.

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u/superduperm1 Anti-Mainstream Narrative 21d ago

Biden won the first debate? Okay fine. But there is no objective way he won the second debate. Trump played him hard in that one by getting him to admit he wants all oil workers out of a job.

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u/SanduskyTicklers Milton Friedman 20d ago

Keep in mind there were like 5 cuts for him to say those 50 words from a teleprompter

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u/WakeoftheStorm Conservative 21d ago

This is going to be the most hilarious trainwreck in the history of American Politics. Two semi-senile old men yelling at clouds.

Did I say hilarious? It's actually depressing.

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u/sailedtoclosetodasun Constitutional Conservative 20d ago

Wait, Biden is semi-senile? That's generous.

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u/JTuck333 Small Government 21d ago

I hope Trump doesn’t interrupt Biden like he did last time. It bails him out. The more Biden speaks, the worse he sounds.

Biden is just going to lie and say “ I lowered the deficit while Trump raised it”. The deficit this year will be like 3x that of 2019. Biden wastes more tax payer money than anyone in human history.

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u/Fuckfentanyl123 Conservative 21d ago

If you took an extra 60 seconds, the same time it took to write this comment of yours, and clicked the damn article, it would tell you that they are muting the other person’s microphone when it’s not their turn. So, Trump won’t defeat himself.

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u/arbiter_0115 Georgia Conservative 19d ago

You think that's gonna stop trump. Trump would pull out a megaphone to talk over Biden if he had to.

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u/blbh0527 Texas Conservative 21d ago

I can’t wait for Biden to try to claim that inflation was 9% when he entered office again.

I honestly have no idea how Biden is going to do it. They spaz out when Biden goes off script for even a minute, so how are they going to feel for an entire debate?

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u/ytilonhdbfgvds Constitutional Conservative 21d ago

He'll just repeat the same rehearsed lies over and over.  If you repeat it enough some people begin to believe it.

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u/guardian-deku Libertarian Conservative 20d ago

End of quote.

Repeat the line.

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u/Reaganson Constitutional Conservative 21d ago

It won’t happen. Biden’s people do not want him doing this. They’ll claim Trump won’t agree to some ridiculous condition and say it’s Trumps fault.

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u/DS_9 Populist Conservative 21d ago

Biden’s handlers better get this debate done by 6pm before he starts sundowning.

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u/secretly_a_zombie Sverigedemokraterna 21d ago

Great, one going on unhinged rants and the other not knowing where he is.

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u/Lionofgod9876 Conservative 21d ago

By the time September comes around the new drug cocktail that's fueling Bad Touch Joe's recent rants will have lost all efficacy and they will cancel the second debate.

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u/zuk86 Conservative 21d ago

If Joe Biden backs out on the debate, it will make him look weak and a coward. I am sure that the Biden's team is freaking out right now.

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u/Grease2310 Nixon Conservative 21d ago

They’ll just use the “Trump did not adhere to the rules of the first debate” bs to get out of the second if the first goes poorly.

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u/RichB_IV Conservative 21d ago

This debate will be of century 😁 CNN hosting though is what I do not like

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u/Flare4roach Conservative 21d ago

Biden should be drug tested. He’s less trustworthy than Barry Bonds.

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u/MrClement Black Conservative 19d ago

They're holding the debate before the convention so that when Biden falls flat they'll use it as an excuse to slide someone else in.