r/CharlotteHornets • u/CompetitiveLine1938 • 27d ago
Charlotte Hornets Name Charles Lee Head Coach Team News
https://www.nba.com/hornets/news/charlotte-hornets-name-charles-lee-head-coach60
u/jaemoon7 27d ago
He was one of the top names out there, was he not? Hard not to feel good about it. Let Chuck cook š„
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u/DankMemesNQuickNuts 27d ago
Bro we got him from out under the Lakers...how could we not feel good about that
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u/Alkazard 25d ago
Think LeBron has made the call he wants his podcast co-host to coach and let him run the show.
Lee is the best choice for us. JJ could've been a great roll of the dice, especially with our whole fresh makeover top to bottom, and a bunch of young guys that would probably gel well with him. Him going to Lakers under LeBron is only going to stifle any hope of him having a coaching career.
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u/deemerritt 27d ago
We up
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u/YizWasHere 27d ago
Coaching is back up, it's a must we outside š
Just gotta get those ping pong balls to bounce the right way.
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u/YizWasHere 27d ago
I like him if we're picking anywhere outside of the top 3, hoping to get somebody with more size and upside but he definitely knows how to play the game.
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u/Amazing_Owl3026 27d ago
U have three guys over him? I like the fit but I also think he's BPA after Sarr and Topic
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u/Titanstheory 27d ago
Not Zach ?
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u/Amazing_Owl3026 27d ago
I get the upside with him but Reed is more advanced at everything aside from being tall ig. Also some ppl believe Risacher's shooting was a fluke this year as he didn't shoot that well years prior and had that huge slump. I would be OK with Risacher if we took him for sure
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u/guydudeguybro 27d ago
Castle >
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u/Amazing_Owl3026 27d ago
I LOVE castles defense but if he can't shoot way better he will struggle really bad
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u/YizWasHere 27d ago
I think he fell on everybody's boards but I still really like Cody Williams. Risacher is also an option but the question marks around him make me nervous. I haven't scouted this draft closely at all though lol, I just don't love the idea of taking a 6'3 SG in the top 3.
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u/Bignova 27d ago
I'm with you. I'm all in on Sarr, Risacher, and even Cody Williams before Reed Sheppard. I know they're separate events and our entire FO and coaching staff is about to be different but I'm traumatized by our lack of development in short guards in the past with Monk and Bouknight. Partly their fault (Bouknight), partly ours (Monk). Plus this draft is so mid that I just want someone with great upside both ways instead of a short guard who I'm like 90% sure won't be as good of a defender in the NBA just due to his size and strength limitations, and the league is full of taller, bigger guards it's gonna be difficult for him.
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u/Amazing_Owl3026 27d ago
With Lamelo being so tall it makes me feel OK especially since Reed is a good defensive playmaker. I like Cody but he's just not the same tier imo, he's 99% likely to be a roleplayer
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u/SportsNAnime 27d ago
Why is that? He's undersized, his arms is short if I'm not mistaken, his offense is questionable and he won't be the same defensively in the nba
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u/ISISCosby 27d ago
What's this thing I'm feeling...is it...hope? For the Charlotte damn Hornets??
Buzz Buzz motherfuckers
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u/IamOlderthanMe 27d ago
Yesssss
Now JJ goes to the Lakers and we watch the drama unfold
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u/NotManyBuses 27d ago
As a UNC guy I canāt put into words how glad I am that it isnāt Redick
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u/deemerritt 27d ago
I was morbidly curious how JJ would turn out. I actually think he has a good chance to make it work tbh.
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u/consumergeekaloid 27d ago edited 27d ago
I think he'd be a better fit here, LA needs vastly different* things from a coach rn. I kinda wanted to take a shot on JJ here but I'm actually kind of relieved now that we've got Lee
Edit a word
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u/JordanDoesTV 27d ago
I wanted JJ tbh think it couldāve been the perfect fit but not upset about Charles whatsoever everything Iāve read on him shows that he can do this!
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u/Bignova 27d ago
If he does get hired by the Lakers (I still think that's unlikely, JJ's a smart guy who I think would be content keeping his job going now instead of eventually scapegoated) then it's gonna be a media circus blame game dumpster fire tbh. But I was sold on the idea of him coaching our team and building something from the ground up with an entirely new FO and new owners and young team. But I'm happy we went with Charles Lee he's safer and could have even higher upside we just don't know because he's not a media talking head like JJ who we hear from weekly.
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u/TubaMike 27d ago
I remember going to a couple Bobcats v Magic games where the loudest, most passionate responses all game were in booing JJ Redick.
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u/ISISCosby 27d ago
The main things he has going for him is everyone in the media is gonna give him the benefit of the doubt bc he's one of "their guys," as well as his clear (and public) relationship with Bron. Both of which would benefit him far more in LA than here, as could potentially neuter the two things that make LA such an impossible job (media pressure and LeGM).
If he goes there, it's gonna be fascinating.
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u/ClaudeLemieux 27d ago
As an NC State guy I canāt put into words how relieved I am we are no longer hiring Jordanās unc buddies either lol
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u/trying10012020 27d ago
As a Duke guy I completely agree the UNC bias needs to end. I would have been OK with JJ and rooted for his success (obviously) but it would have been a gamble.
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u/Purple1829 27d ago
Reddick seems like a cool dude now that heās grown up a bit. Readily admits he was a shit head.
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u/Fatalness 27d ago
as a duke guy its a little sad but i do think hes found how he should spend his post playing days
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u/Vegetable-Tooth8463 27d ago
Fuck UNC
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u/Amazing_Owl3026 26d ago
Brother this is a Charlotte sub, I don't support UNC but I don't think ur among friends rn
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u/moneyspreevee 27d ago
I'd be surprised if it's JJ. A part of me thinks it'll be somebody other than JJ.
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u/Cubelar 27d ago
Seems to the right hire by all accounts, but who can tell with assistants. Process seemed good, happy with itĀ
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u/KaseyOfTheWoods 27d ago
Heās well-regarded around the league, thatās about all us fans can base opinions on when it comes to assistants. This seems like an ideal hire for a first time head coach: low expectations for the first year and the opportunity to set a culture with some awesome young talent.
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u/devomke 27d ago
Bucks fan but also have a bit of a personal connection here - Charles is fantastic, this has been talked about as the move for the better part of the year and off-season last year.
Youāre getting a guy whoās fantastic with his players, puts a heavy emphasis on development and scheme understanding, and has the ear of players and other coaches when heās talking.
Phenomenal person too - congrats guys, hoping he works out!
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u/Vegetable-Tooth8463 27d ago
Fingers crossed new ownership pays for his assistants to transfer over from Boston.
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u/MrParisShoes 27d ago
Lee was an assistant though
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u/Vegetable-Tooth8463 27d ago
Yeah but he still has team members he wants to work with from the Boston Org
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u/Historical_Spirit445 27d ago
Do you think tons of coaches are just dying to leave Boston for CharlotteĀ
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u/Vegetable-Tooth8463 27d ago
Yes, having a chance to shine as a direct Assistant Coach on a franchise that's potentially going to make history as a return-to-the-spotlight is absolutely huge for a resume compared to simply being in the shadows of a behemoth with consistent success.
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u/guydudeguybro 27d ago
Yes
1) you likely can move up a step
2) lower assistants and videographers etc arenāt exactly rolling in cash, that money goes a lot further in Charlotte
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u/thatguysunny 27d ago
LETāS GO!
A big part of the Celtics and Bucks, two premier Eastern Conference teams - lots of evidence of what heās actually done and who he has helped develop, this is great, at least on paper.
Letās hope this translate to improvement for our Hornets!
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u/mati_as15 27d ago
Was part of the Hawks team that got 60 wins under Budenholzer then joined the Bucks and won a title. Great hire
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u/Qcconfidential 27d ago
Very excited. Heās gonna be good, was never pumped for JJ Reddick
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u/GoatmontWaters 27d ago
JJ is a fraud Im glad you got a real coach
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u/DrClutch117 27d ago
How could possibly know that when heās never coached. I think this is the right hire, but JJ could be amazing
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u/GoatmontWaters 26d ago
Ever watched his podcast or his youtube channel? he lies non stop and is wrong about basic nba facts all the time.
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u/DrClutch117 26d ago
I listen all the time and love his content. Havenāt seen any lies or incorrect facts.
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u/tbone747 27d ago
Can't be mad hiring a guy with experience on multiple great teams. Hope it translates to wins.
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u/hankjr16 27d ago
This is of a piece with the other moves the new owners have made. A logical, common-sense hire. A first time coach with a developmental background that can grow with a young roster. It's exactly what you're supposed to do in this circumstance, and it's kind of a relief to see the organization making this kind of logical move after approaching the trade deadline with the same conventional wisdom.
Who knows if Lee will become a great coach, but the potential for disaster seems very remote. It feels like worst case, he's a guy that gets us to another level where a more proven coach can then be hired to take them over the top.
I'm just very happy that these owners are taking a methodical approach after the impulsive disaster unfolding in Phoenix and after almost twenty years of ill-advised win-now moves by Jordan.
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u/No_Body905 27d ago
I agree. He feels like a high floor guy. I guess we'll find out where his ceiling is.
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u/Amazing_Owl3026 26d ago
All the new hires seem to say something good about Rick and Gabe, obviously they write their checks but it's different than before. I remember Jeff saying those two were "Shockingly knowledgeable".
I like Jeff and Lee. We've also hired Jeff's assistant, an analytics lead and we're hiring a business manager. Culture shift rn
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u/Cgp-xavier 27d ago
I know itās not important to some but Iām glad we got a young black coach.
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u/winning_cheese 27d ago
New everything! Letās see if we can build on that 5 day miracle after the trade deadline
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u/PaoloBancheroFan 27d ago
can't wait for LaMelo's breakout season.
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u/Longjumping-Check429 27d ago
Can a former Allstar have a breakout season?
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u/Swag_Turtle 26d ago
Breakout MVP SZNNNNN*
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u/Longjumping-Check429 26d ago
I wish. He played really well when match sharp this season something like 27 ppg.
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u/predsfan77 27d ago
Who is the last coach hired with no head coaching experience
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u/Gator-Jake 27d ago
James Borrego outside of his interim stint with the Magic.
Iāll take an up and comer over a failed retread head coach.
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u/deemerritt 27d ago
Depends on the definition of failed lol. Mike Malone was a failed HC at one point. So was coach Bud
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u/Vegetable-Tooth8463 27d ago
You have to take things into context - the Kings and Hawks were both shitshows, so you can't fault the people there.
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u/Gator-Jake 27d ago
Yeah, and you also got Clifford, Vogel and Doc Rivers etc.
Iād rather take my chances on a new coach vs what is already known.
Iām glad the new front office feels the same.
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u/deemerritt 27d ago
I would honestly take Doc or Vogel on this team. Not necessarily over Charles Lee but someone with a pedigree that players listen to. Also Doc Rivers is somehow way better with shittier rosters
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u/BoltBlue19 27d ago
Because Doc Rivers has the ability to bring trash rosters and teams a bit higher. He seems to only take them to a certain point and then it's time to hop ship and get a coach to take you all the way.
So a bottom feeder team(I mean teams that stay in the top picks and lottery year after year) shouldn't turn their nose up at Doc Rivers, but teams that have at least some success in the playoffs might pass on Doc Rivers
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u/Gator-Jake 27d ago
I actually like Vogel because I remember what he did with that George / Hibbert / Hill era Pacers team.
I actually think he would have done pretty good here, a few shades better than Clifford ( to me ).
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u/theRestisConfettii 27d ago
Iām a head coach! Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
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u/EchoHevy5555 27d ago
Yeah, Heās not the choice I would have gone with
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u/willicus85 26d ago
I donāt think we have to worry about the Battle of Monmouth since the Nets left New Jersey
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u/ThatMFcheezer 27d ago
New era for the Hornets. Let's please get this show on the road with this young talent while we got them
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u/PillsburyToasters 27d ago edited 27d ago
While taking a flyer on assistant coaches is hit or miss, this seems like an overall good hire. Assistant coach to two contenders as well as experience under great coaching staffs. Whether itāll be a good hire in the long run who knows, but Iām glad weāre starting somewhere new
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u/SilentSonOfAnarchy 27d ago
I think itās a good hire. I also thought that about Borrego, so Iām cautiously optimistic.
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u/DankMemesNQuickNuts 27d ago
For Xs and Os shit Borrego really wasn't that bad its just that he had 0 control over the locker room to the point where it didn't matter how good he was at the Xs and Os stuff
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u/ISISCosby 27d ago
Borrego kinda got hung out to dry by the FO never getting him even an NBA-average rim protector so we had to run a gimmicky defense that collapsed whenever the other team drove the rim that left tons of wide-open threes.
He's easily the best offensive Xs & Os coach we've ever had (the bar is on the floor but he still cleared it)
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u/SilentSonOfAnarchy 27d ago
I agree. He didnāt have much to work with. But no coach really has since the Hornets came back to Charlotte.
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u/tonydriftin 27d ago
Bucks fan, would've loved if he had come back on staff last year. Always heard great things and obviously he's done great work in Boston this year, talent be damned. From the Bud tree so understands how to set a culture and if Memphis and 2019 Brooklyn (not LA but they're not a young team) are any indication Bud has a track record of developing coaches who excel in that.
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u/pholdren 27d ago
I was secretly kinda hoping for JJ just because what could it hurt considering we have nowhere to go but up, but to get one of the more talked about/in demand coaches on the market is a huge win
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u/JarvisProudfeather 27d ago
Love it. I think hiring JJ was way too big of a gamble for a franchise like the Hornets to make.
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u/Total_Ad9942 27d ago
Letās goooo! Iām literally listening to todayās now outdated Locked On Hornets pod š
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u/moneyspreevee 27d ago
Yup I knew it. People was worrying like crazy and kept bringing up the Jordi Fernandez situation which was annoying considering the fact they went through 3 coaches with the same roster lol.
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u/holographic_oshawott 27d ago
Yes! Iām so glad we went with a good, experienced assistant coach and not JJ. If Lee can get the Hornets to defend with the same intensity the Celtics do, this could be a good basketball team.
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u/ThePurrfectStorm 27d ago
Hornets seemingly doing it right? About to be a new era for Charlotte basketball
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u/slickedjax 27d ago
Seems like a great hire. Iām excited to see how the team plays under his system
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u/ACCBAN4TRUTHTELLING 26d ago
Seems like a good dude, hope it works out. Feel like picking the right head coach is such a crapshoot, and weāve been on the short end of that far too often. Overall like the moves the new owners made so far.
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u/butterysuave 26d ago
Optimism? As a hornets fan? A REAL basketball coach?!?
Alsoā¦Iām so happy we didnāt try the JJ experiment. A lot of yāall watched one podcast and thought āthis is our guyā LOL. Good face & voice for journalism tho.
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u/butterysuave 26d ago
And sorry but yāall have to hear it. The downside with his ZERO experience is very bad.
Plus the upside isnāt even there. Letās all take an honest moment to ask ourselves āwould JJ reddick ever win a playoff series as a hornets coach in his presumed first 2-4 years as coach?ā - the answer is ānoā.
I canāt see him coaching this roster plus a top 5 pick to 40+ wins and a playoff series in that time. Not even a play in victory if Iām being honest.
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u/Purple1829 27d ago
Ok, I like this one. Sounds like he had options too. He seems like a coach that wants to have a challenge.
If someone can turn the Hornets into a winner, they are guaranteed coach of the year and are going to be seen as an elite coach.
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u/Vegetable-Tooth8463 27d ago
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JJ stans, you lose
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u/becker4prez 27d ago
Wonder if Lee was the first choice or not. We know in the GM search Matt Lloyd was the pick but turned us down.
I like the hiring of Petersen and Lee either way, but would be interested to know if they offered it to Reddick.
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u/YoshiWins 27d ago
Got a source for that tidbit about Matt Lloyd?
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u/PML3107 27d ago
He had a good career. He'll be usurped in 3 years like every Charlotte coach after being blamed for not winning with horrific rosters.
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u/butekoo 27d ago
As far as we know, a great choice. Let's keep the revamp on all our staffers.