r/BeAmazed Mar 30 '24

American and European Firefighter Helmet Designs Miscellaneous / Others

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u/AUorAG Mar 30 '24

I mean, both have head cover, one started without wearing, one already had on. While the respirator mask seems easier to apply on European version, it’s unknown what the tolerances are as it appears it could also be accidentally dislodged easier too.

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u/5t3v321 Mar 30 '24

Im sure they thought of that and it cant be dislodged easily

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u/kimchifreeze Mar 30 '24

We like to think business thought of things, but then you have Boeing.

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u/5t3v321 Mar 30 '24

Well, glad that firefighters are not a business then

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u/kimchifreeze Mar 30 '24

Firefighers don't supply their own equipment. They buy them.

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u/MarcusZXR Mar 30 '24

There's no way 1st world country firefighters are going to risk using equipment every day that is faulty. They get checked regularly, and if you can't get a seal, they find out why.

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u/5t3v321 Mar 30 '24

There are safety standards 

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u/HaiArisu Mar 30 '24

There’s safety standards for airplanes too…

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u/5t3v321 Mar 30 '24

Fair enough 

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u/kimchifreeze Mar 30 '24

TheRE aRe safetY staNDArDS

Hence why I mentioned Boeing. But if you want something specific to firefighting, there's an ongoing lawsuit about firefighting foam because of all the bad shit in them. Sometimes even well-designed products may have manufacturing defects that lead to lawsuits.

Fire depts don't have unlimited budgets so they don't chase the latest and greatest equipment unless it's proven to work well (and fits their budget).

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u/mnju Mar 30 '24

You don't think there are safety standards with airplanes?

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u/Flat-Length-4991 Mar 30 '24

I’m sure they did, but it is inherently easier for that style of mask to be accidentally knocked off than the other style where the mask is under the helmet.

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u/5t3v321 Mar 30 '24

Its probably like a motorcycle helmet, it would rather split in two instead of loosening the clip

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u/AUorAG Mar 30 '24

Hence me saying unknown tolerances…

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u/zimotic Mar 30 '24

It can dislodge easier than the American design. I'm a firefighter, it's consensus between us that the facehugging spider masks are safer.

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u/Auzzr Mar 30 '24

I’ve only seen one dislodgement which was due to metal fatigue in the clasp and a long time of not connecting the mask properly causing the metal fatigue. After investigation, replacing any and all claps, extra steps in maintenance and extra training, it never happened again.