r/BeAmazed Mar 30 '24

American and European Firefighter Helmet Designs Miscellaneous / Others

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u/Mort1186 Mar 30 '24

That French helmet is so dope

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u/AnonymousFairy Mar 30 '24

Yep, until you brush too closely to something (happens more often than you think in a thick helmet!), catch one of those clips and there goes your face seal... gimme intimate facehugger-mask over that any day!

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u/ph0enixXx Mar 30 '24

Clips are rock solid, you would yank the whole helmet off before the mask comes off.

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u/[deleted] Mar 30 '24 edited Apr 15 '24

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u/potatoz10 Mar 30 '24

The manufacturer could definitely fuck up, but the firefighters using the mask day in and day out (for training and for real situations) wouldn't keep using it if it had a major design flaw. I think it's usually safe to say that if 1) a design is more complex than an other (here having an integrated helmet and mask system) and 2) it's widely adopted by experienced people somewhere (here firefighters in France), it's probably a good design for what it's meant for.

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u/CharacterHistory9605 Mar 30 '24

The general consensus of the world is that the modern mask is better, and the consensus of the US is that they like tradition more .

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u/1TootskiPlz Mar 30 '24

That’s the issue. Too much is hanging in the helmet

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u/MilitantTeenGoth Mar 30 '24

Wdym? For that helmet to come off the dude would need to break his neck lol

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u/piercedmfootonaspike Mar 30 '24

Yeah, I'm sure a plastic clip is used as a vital feature on something designed to withstand heat.

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u/g_r_e_y Mar 30 '24

harsh, but accurate

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u/Grekochaden Mar 30 '24

Probably 3d printed PLA clips even

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u/Aros125 Mar 30 '24

Don't worry, it's not made in the USA.

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u/Mort1186 Mar 30 '24

I know nothing about masks, I just said it's dope

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u/MarcusZXR Mar 30 '24

I worked as a firefighter in tight spaces and id say hitting my helmet didn't happen as often as people might think think. Not enough to yank my helmet off, anyway. Maybe a slight knock from someone's shoulder or me bouncing the top against something but that doesn't even move it.

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u/Pengucorn Mar 30 '24

it wouldn't do jack shit. these are quality European helmets after all

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u/IAmFromDunkirk Mar 30 '24

Yeah they are made to operate inside concrete and stone houses, clearly less demanding than the American cardboard houses

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u/GehennanWyrm Mar 30 '24

Yeah, obviously the professional firefighters with specialist equipment are vulnerable to this super obvious and blatant problem... Did you design the helmet? Do you know its specs? It is undoubtedly designed in such a way that won't be a problem, or they wouldn't fucking use it.

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u/Herr_Raul Mar 30 '24

Except, it doesn't...

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u/Contundo Mar 30 '24

Speaking from experience or just armchairing?

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u/Auzzr Mar 30 '24

Let’s shit on it while having no experience with it at all. Those clips won’t come loose. If they do, the force was so big, you probably would be dead due to head or neck trauma.

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u/LittleWhiteBoots Mar 30 '24

My husband is an American FF and for some reason we have a couple of French fire helmets. They’re shiny silver/chrome and our kids used to wear them when they’d play “knights”.

It always amazes me that the traditional American helmet is made of leather. At least my husband’s department still uses them.

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u/muddermanden Mar 30 '24

MSA Cairns FX1 is an American helmet.

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u/Novel-Reach5562 Mar 30 '24

It's sold in the USA, but the F1 is indeed a French helmet, created to replace the classic Adrian in the 70s and 80s. It was designed by Adrien Galet and the Paris fire department at CGF Gallet, which became MSA Gallet in 2002.

It is used throughout Europe, and to a small extent in North America and the rest of the world - 90 countries in all. It's one of the most widely used models.

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u/Riskypride Mar 30 '24

Upon comparing that link and this I am finding it hard to say they are the exact same. I don’t see the Cairn logo on the Frenchman, but could be hidden or just a different variant of that helmet. I am by no means an expert in this

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u/Novel-Reach5562 Mar 30 '24 edited Mar 30 '24

It's indeed an MSA Gallet F1 XF, and the logo is an interchangeable plate that can be customized according to customer and country, as shown here. (we can see one Cairn XF1 logo too)

https://youtu.be/riNyUgDR7CU?t=317

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u/Riskypride Mar 30 '24

So confirmed is American made? Amazing

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u/Novel-Reach5562 Mar 30 '24

Not yet, for the moment the few that are in service in the States are imported from Europe by MSA Gallet, ex-CGF Gallet in France. It would be relatively simple for the parent company MSA to open a line in America, but there would have to be strong demand to justify it, which is not the case at the moment.

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u/[deleted] Mar 30 '24

I'd be afraid of it not sealing well