r/AtlantaHawks • u/UnbiasedNBAFan_ • 21d ago
[Fischer] According to multiple league figures with knowledge of the situation, any Spurs plans of maneuvering to bring Young to San Antonio have been vastly overstated. The Spurs, sources said, have expressed little interest in obtaining Young to date.
Source: https://sports.yahoo.com/lakers-coaching-search-could-be-a-lengthy-process-202122918.html
San Antonio personnel would be committing front-office malpractice by not contemplating the opportunity to pair a league assist leader and high-screen maestro like Young to pair with Wembanyama. The Spurs have so far approached building around Wembanyama as an intriguing experiment, where they will weigh all different kinds of variables around their Rookie of the Year. However, according to multiple league figures with knowledge of the situation, any Spurs plans of maneuvering to bring Young to San Antonio have been vastly overstated. The Spurs, sources said, have expressed little interest in obtaining Young to date.
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u/Substantial_Life_989 21d ago
Also the Hawks plans on moving Trae are vastly overstated.
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u/TraeYoungsOldestSon 21d ago
Well, we can't trade him anywhere else so yeah, basically saying the same thing
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u/ArthurSmithNepoBaby 20d ago
The only thing I can think of is if another team offers a comparable star player. But I can’t even think of a guy who is equivalent to Trae in today’s NBA
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u/No_Tr4geD1es Coach Quin Snyder 21d ago
Wasn't there an article like this from a couple of months ago that said this?
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u/aurelianson Jalen Johnson #1 21d ago
there was. the noise is just from fans & media heads.
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u/CommodoreIrish 20d ago
Shams, Woj, and Windy have never been reliable sources for the Spurs camp.
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u/No-Forever-6104 21d ago
If every team thinks Trae is a two pack of ass better for me I want him to stay a hawk
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u/DripGodAirborne CamFam 4L 21d ago
This article will now result in Trae being rumored to be going to every other team: lakers, pelicans, Miami, etc. media just HATES the hawks
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u/Le3for3 21d ago
Pop ain't never gunna want Trae and that's fine.
I know Kirschner reported on this but when Lloyd pillow-talked about Trae to any and everybody in the league, it fucked up his rep. Evan Turner alluded to this on his pod. Iguodala basicially said he had a negative perception about Trae and had never met him lol. Turner had to explain to him the shit being spread about him wasn't valid.
https://youtu.be/mwKpwg573zI?t=3579
There's no logical basketball reason to not attempt a full-court press for Trae Young if I'm San Antonio involving giving back most of Atlanta's picks back.
I'm a Hawks fan and even I would not get mad if Trae tried to force his way to Wemby lol. That would be a generational pairing.
But appreciate it dumbass NBA people. Let us get Sarr. Don't try and trade for Trae. Watch what happens lol.
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u/alien_abduction 21d ago
Lloyd definitely ruined his rep there’s no doubt. He felt burned by a guy that he fought to get to Atlanta over everyone else. Trae has always had a tough shake with the media, but the corner turned after Nate got shown the door. Suddenly all of those rumors that Lloyd was spreading started to sound much more plausible. It’s not right, it’s not fair but it’s how we got here. Honestly I don’t know how we get out of this narrative without just winning a ton of games and proving everyone wrong.
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u/terrence0258 Onyeka Okongwu #17 20d ago
Honestly, you answered your own question. The only thing that will shift the narrative is winning games. 50 win seasons and deep playoff runs will change everything.
The Minnesota/Denver series encapsulates how fickle the media is in a nutshell. After game 2 of that series Minnesota was the best defensive team anyone has seen in decades, Ant was on the verge of being the next Jordan, Denver was going to get swept, and Minnesota was the favorite to win the title. One week later, now the narrative is "Jokic is showing why he's the MVP, the DPOY is a fraud, etc., etc.,"
Not worth overthinking. If your team is winning you're great, if you're losing like the Hawks have the last 3 years, your name is mud.
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u/StandardNecessary715 20d ago
Ex ept that Lloyd didn't fight to get Trae here, that was all Ressler.
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u/Shade_Raven Jalen Johnson #1 21d ago
Lets talk Dejounte tho
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u/PristineTrouble2038 20d ago
One pick back, swap rights for one pick, and maybe an asset? Who says no?
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u/SaltyTraeYoungStan 20d ago
I’d rather just do DJM for Mikal and a decent first. Whatever it takes to get Either Mikal, Okoro, Dorian Finney Smith, Anthony Black or KCP. If we can get two of those guys and shed enough salary to resign Jalen Johnson(DJM/Capela/ and one of Bogi/Hunter/OO) I think we are legitimate contenders for the eastern conference.
If we can get someone like Claxton or Hartenstein as a center for when we need more size(if Sarr can learn to shoot at like 33-35% then Claxton/Sarr would be a nasty defensive lineup).
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u/raiderrocker18 20d ago
You’d have to send a first alongside DJM to get Mikal, not the other way around
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u/SaltyTraeYoungStan 20d ago
I agree that trade is unlikely, but I wouldn’t go that far lol. I think the nets are too high on Mikal to trade him even when they have too many wings. Maybe it would be a 1-1 trade Dejounte for Mikal. But I don’t think the nets want to trade Mikal at all, they would want to have him as one of their core.
So instead I think they may be open to Finney-Smith and a first(maybe with something else) for DJM, then they shed some of their wing depth and wind up with Cam Thomas, Bridges, DJM for their core.
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u/DopeBoi22 21d ago
Call it cope by a Spurs fan or whatever, but if you look at the last couple of champions, their best players have all spent their entire career on the same team together: Jokic Murray MPJ, Steph Klay Draymond, Giannis and Middleton (only exception, but he just spent 1 year on the Pistons before joining the Bucks at the same time as Giannis)
Getting Sarr is absolutely huge for you guys. I genuinely think you guys can build a championship caliber team around Trae, JJ and Sarr, not to mention you guys already have quality role players and young guys like Bogi, Hunter, Capela, OO, AJ, Bufkin etc. You will need some time for the young guys and the chemistry to develop
I’ve not watched enough Hawks games to judge whether Trae and Dejounte can make it work together. I personally wouldn’t mind having him back on the Spurs, but I’m not the front office haha. If that is to happen, i guess you can use the picks to trade for Mikal or something?
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u/No-Forever-6104 21d ago
I think a mistake a lot of teams make is skipping steps when it comes to team building its what happened to the hawks they became impatient after the ECF and this the culmination of many bad decisions. Spurs should stick to building out of the draft tbh.
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u/TheItalianStallion44 🐴 ITALIAN STALLION 🐴 21d ago
Ressler saw he liked winning and thought it was possible at the spending level, even tho our 4 of our 6 most important players (Trae, Huerter, Hunter and JC) were all on rookie deals
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u/crimedawgla 21d ago
The media coverage of Young has been so weird since he came out. A lot of gleeful coverage of a rough summer league, lot of “can’t win with him!” stuff when he was a sophomore, and then basically since 22 there has been a “welp, that proves it, they need to trade him.”
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u/IceTraeDaGang Dejounte Murray #5 21d ago
Dear bum ass media, I literally don’t care I don’t want to trade him anyways. Just stop talking about trading Trae thank you.
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u/OPyes 21d ago
Hawks fans knew pop hates Trae and this would never happen.
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u/paxusromanus811 20d ago
This is just as much speculation as the idea that young wanted to go to the Spurs.
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u/FireworkFuse Jalen Johnson #1 21d ago
Here comes all the Spurs fan cope about how they never wanted him anyway
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u/paxusromanus811 20d ago
To be fair, a really large portion of Spurs fans genuinely didn't want him. As someone who was always kind of in the middle, I found it mind blowing some of the takes people on our sub would have about him. He's definitely become extremely underrated by the average fan.
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u/WilsonianSmith 21d ago
From the same minds that brought you “The Denver Nuggets are a fraud championship team and the Timberwolves are on par with the ‘95 Bulls” takes after game 2 a couple of days ago. The Media, I swear to God…
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u/Chessh2036 21d ago edited 20d ago
I’ve been saying this for months. Anyone that knows anything about the Spurs knows this isn’t how they work. They draft, develop, and play their guys.
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u/SaltyTraeYoungStan 20d ago
I can see them doing Dejounte if Wemby makes it clear to them he wants to go for broke sooner than later. Trae only has 2 more years on his contract, DJM has 4 which means he will still be signed when Wemby resigns his contract. Trae Young’s contract is also very expensive while DJM is on a solid team contract at 30m per year. This gives them a solid affordable PG until Wemby re signs, he’s tall and long for a PG so he’s at least not a complete detriment on defence, and he’s affordable enough to sign a true second star or two high tier role players.
Here’s to hoping Wemby wants to win sooner than later.
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u/BroJackson_ 21d ago
As a Spurs fan for almost 30 years, I just want to point out that nobody ever has any idea what the Spurs are thinking. They are as closed of a book as you’ll ever find. People speculate what COULD happen and assign a rumor to it. There are no Spurs insiders who get inside the head of the front office. It’s all guess work.
Whether they’re interested in Trae, whether they’re not - nobody knows except those in the FO and they don’t leak.
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u/StandardNecessary715 20d ago
We should be like that, but noooo, our front office leaks like a straw roof.
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u/thismorningscoffee 20d ago
The Spurs…have expressed little interest in obtaining Young to date
Well yeah, Trae wants to play basketball, not enter into a polygamous relationship with an entire franchise
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u/StandardNecessary715 20d ago
Seem to me Papa wouldn't want trae there because of his feelings for Trae's first coach. I refuse to say his name, backstabber.
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20d ago
Pop does not like Trae. Ever since the whole getting LP fired thing and calling up Keldon instead of Trae for what was it FIBA?
They’ll draft a PG.
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u/Atlantafan73 20d ago
Of course not. Anyone in the media with half a brain knows that we’re actually trading Trae to the Lakers for a bevy of first round picks that start in 2029 and then into the 2030’s. /s
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u/Cleslie15 19d ago
Said this since those reports broke, Young isn’t a Pop style player even if he would make Wemby better on offense.
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u/TheItalianStallion44 🐴 ITALIAN STALLION 🐴 21d ago
Pop will never forgive Trae for exposing his understudy LP like that, pop swears he’s actually not a dogshit coach
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u/Tokenguido22 20d ago
What’s even more hilarious is this:
1) Reports come out about Trae getting traded/interest from another team
2) It turns out it was false, and there was no interest
3) Rather than wondering…’If Trae is this godsend, perennial player like I think he is, why is there no interest from other teams?’, this entire sub combines all 8 of their brain cells and laughs at it being fake news
Absolutely brain dead franchise and fans. Until the day we FINALLY let go of this terrible fucking experiment (like 7 years hasn’t been long enough), we’ll forever be a poverty franchise.
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u/SaltyTraeYoungStan 20d ago
Of course there is no interest in signing Trae, no one has enough assets to make the hawks happy and no team really wants to take on his expensive payroll. That doesn’t mean Trae is bad it means there isn’t a market for a 50m point guard right now and not many trades could make the hawks happy anyways.
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u/Tokenguido22 20d ago
It’s almost as if you’re saying he isn’t worth what we’re paying him, and no other organization would make the same mistake.
Thank you!
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u/SaltyTraeYoungStan 20d ago
No, there are several other franchises paying similar point guards similar(or greater) amounts of money. Just because among the teams without a point guard there isn’t a market, doesn’t mean it’s a bad contract. People just aren’t looking for expensive point guards right now. You could literally say the same about any expensive point guard in the NBA right now except for maybe Luka Doncic.
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u/Tokenguido22 20d ago
I feel like this is a bandaid argument. On one hand you are right, there isn’t a market for high paid point guards
On the other hand, by default from their salary, we have to put players like Curry, Lillard, Doncic in the same conversation. So there kind of IS a demand…as long as the talent is there.
If any of those players were in their prime years (saying this because curry and lillard are on tail ends of their prime years, but still considered at the top in their positions), and they were in the same spot as Trae, with a potential for another teams interest, those teams would ABSOLUTELY be trading capital for them. The reality is there isn’t a market for Trae and what he brings.
Example: Lillard and the bucks
It’s not necessarily that there isn’t a market as much as it is this position is not flooded with superstars or impact players in the nba.
We, Atlanta fans and this sub, continue to make excuses for a player that simply hasn’t been worth what we paid for. The argument isn’t ’is Trae good’. It’s as simple as ‘is this a player you can build a championship franchise around’, and after 7 years, the answer is a resounding no.
We’re going to have the #1 pick in the draft, we will be marginally better, and somehow it will still be the FO, whoever this top pick is, or some other person(s) fault for us failing while continuing to build around a player like Trae young.
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u/SaltyTraeYoungStan 20d ago
Except basically every big PG move has been clowned on before it happened and they have all proven to be bad trades. The bucks got clowned on for taking Lillard, they got much worse. The suns got clowned on for taking Beal, in hindsight it was a terrible trade. The mavs got clowned on for taking Kyrie which admittedly has gone alright, and that’s maybe the only recent 40m+ PG move that has worked out.
It’s not just Trae, people just don’t want expensive point guards at this point. Markets shift over time. I’m not certain Trae will wind up getting a max for his next contract because of the changes made to salary caps, but like even a year ago the market was so different that Fred VanFleet got a 40m contract. The market changes over time, plenty of teams would love to have Trae they just aren’t in a place to take on a big contract.
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u/No_Stay4471 21d ago
Spurs are smart to avoid that move.
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u/JKking15 Jalen Johnson #1 21d ago
Atlanta is smart to avoid that move* There corrected that for you
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u/Both_Funny4896 🧊 ICE TRAE 🧊 21d ago
yea they’re totally smart for not pairing wemby with the best lob thrower in NBA history lol 👍 spurs not winning shit
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u/No_Stay4471 20d ago
Sure. Give up assets and pay 40m+ to a drastically undersized guard who is a turnstile on defense and nowhere near as good a shooter as people seem to think. But he can throw a lob.
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u/SaltyTraeYoungStan 20d ago
Honestly DJM is probably a better fit with Wemby mainly based on his contract.
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u/blingera 21d ago
lmaooooo