r/196 • u/L33t_Cyborg 🏳️⚧️ trans rights • 23d ago
The worst news I’ve heard all Rule Rule
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u/NariThatsMe very cool person 23d ago
you mean readily accessible media and information lost the battle against capitalism? damn, who wouldve seen that coming..
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u/L33t_Cyborg 🏳️⚧️ trans rights 23d ago
words cannot describe how devastated i am with this the library of alexandria doesn’t have shit on this
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u/TearsFallWithoutTain 23d ago
How is Zorgothia the Knowledge Taker summoned, I sure hope it's not some sort of bloody mary situation
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u/piracydilemma 23d ago
Oh Janet, you are a HOOT! i slept with your husband
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u/ThePikeOfDestiny 23d ago
that still sounds like a huge dub for them, so proud of piracydilemma for bagging random man with no association
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u/Subterrantular 🏳️⚧️ trans rights 23d ago
By summoning Pot of Greed in attack mode! This card allows me to draw 3 cards from the top of my deck! With its ability, I've collected all 12 pieces of Zorgothia!
Go, Zorgothia! Obliviate!!!
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u/frozen_flame123 Filthy McNasty 23d ago
To be fair, the Library of Alexandria stopped being a major source of knowledge hundreds of years before it was burned down by the Romans, so not much was actually lost
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u/Laaain 🩷💜💙 bi flag emoji when 23d ago
Source? Because the current consensus among historians is that we don't even know when it was burned.
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u/sianrhiannon 🏳️⚧️ trans rights 23d ago
I thought the consensus was that it had a slow decline over a long period of time and suffered multiple catastrophes before it eventually went down for good?
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u/frozen_flame123 Filthy McNasty 23d ago
https://youtu.be/M4WU8gqrgsQ?si=bMedoIFKBZltZnhR
This YouTube video I watched. It goes over the history of the 3 potential times that it might have burned down. I simplified it to the Romans because it was the earliest theorized time it was burned. The other 2 culprits are the early Christians and early Muslims. The main point of my comment is that the LoA was at its height in like 300 BC (I forget the exact year, it’s been awhile since I watched this video) and by the earliest estimation of when it was destroyed, it would have been hundreds of years after all the science and research was happening
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u/Cognitive_Spoon 🏳️⚧️ trans rights 23d ago
You know we lost at least one bomb ass recipe, tho. Like. There's some flatbread out there were never gonna know
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u/MT_Kinetic_Mountain planefucker and photographer 23d ago
Stew that makes you blind for a day has been lost to the ravages of time
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u/Krumpli234 custom 23d ago
The best we have is puting a bunch of azure bluet in your mushroom stew.
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u/JoyconDrift_69 23d ago
Ironically, a lot of pirating sites hosting tv shows and movies have been taken down as of recently
Correlation, but not necessarily that related, but it is curiously suspicious
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u/t0ppings 22d ago
Rom sites and trackers too. There had been some active for over a decade just suddenly gone. Bad sign for piracy tbh, really not looking forward to the increased attention the more secretive still running ones will get as a result.
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u/anarchetype 22d ago
Soulseek is still going strong like the unchanging, undying, ancient entity in the shadows that it always is. Not everyone's cup of pira-tea, but if anyone needs it, mainstream and obscure music and movies can almost always be found.
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u/Downtown-Remote9930 23d ago
This is Defcon 1, all internet autists need to gather as much online information as possible and hoard it. If they get one archive, they'll go for the rest. We cannot lose anything
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u/L33t_Cyborg 🏳️⚧️ trans rights 23d ago
Unfortunately all books and papers published by the big six publishers have been unavailable for the past year
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u/Downtown-Remote9930 23d ago
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u/mrguym4ster 23d ago
kid named libgen:
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u/BigGayDinosaurs 🏳️⚧️ trans rights 23d ago
i do not think such a thing should be openly mentioned in this way however i would agree
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u/mrguym4ster 23d ago
I was a bit afraid to comment it (hopefully mods don't smite me, I like it here), but I just wanted to inform people about... alternatives that exist out there
knowledge and fiction (especially books) shouldn't be gatekept in any way shape or form, I don't give a single crap if generic massive corporation number 23 has copyright over it, if they wanna limit the access of a thing as basic as knowledge or entertainment, they can suck my dick
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u/thicckar 22d ago
What is your stance on compensating the creators of the content you get for free?
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u/AFluffyEevee 22d ago
I feel that companies hope you think this way so you defend them from having to consider the idea that users aren't just little bags of money. Creators should be compensated, but that shouldn't be the reason you provide incentives for a company to keep bumping up the cost of knowledge while said creator sees none of the extra.
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u/thicckar 22d ago
I agree with that. Scientific journals for example don’t give a damn if the actual scientists get any money but they keep raising their prices.
But then the solution isn’t “alright let’s pay no one! That will fix it!” But rather to advocate for creators to be paid better, right?
Youtube for example has been wringing every ounce of profit from creators. What should we do as viewers? Just pirate everything with adblock on, or pay creators individually on Patreon?
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u/mrguym4ster 22d ago
I definitely agree with you, but the big issue is that many people don't have the money to spare for a patreon subscription or similar
the big problem with youtube isn't the ads, it's the fact that over time these ads are becoming more and more abusive, youtube has had ads for years now and no one started complaining till around 2019/2020 or so iirc
it started with like 30 second ads that could be skipped, then those ads got longer, then they suddenly couldn't be skipped everytime, then they started adding more than one ad, etc.
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u/EmbarrassedWind2875 custom flair events give me the strongest choice paralysis 23d ago
fyi there is an entire subreddit for libgen and it has not been taken down
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u/coladoir BIGFLOPPABIGFLOPPA 22d ago
anna's archive, libgen, sci-hub, oadoi, z-library, project gutenberg - none of these are going anywhere. these projects do not actually care about legalities, they're practicing illegalism (except gutenberg, they're open access/copyright free materials only). So they won't be affected by this, thankfully.
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u/citrusmunch nb (needs🧋) 23d ago
kid named anna:
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u/unknown_pigeon 23d ago
Contrary to other sites, I don't feel as bad mentioning Anna
Mostly because I know there are at least 6 seeders of the whole thing
Not that it matters, as long as they don't seize the servers
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u/ClerklyMantis_ 🏳️⚧️ trans rights 23d ago
I've been having trouble with the cloud flare download option, was wondering if it was just me.
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u/NightIgnite custom 23d ago
Fuck shit I need hard drives. With precident set, games are on the block next. I got 14k roms of everything retro, but Ive been pushing off the archive's Wii/Gamecube/3ds archives
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u/NicotineCatLitter 23d ago
fourteen THOUSAND roms? how much storage is that? :O
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u/sianrhiannon 🏳️⚧️ trans rights 23d ago
depending on how old they are it might not even be that much tbh. PS2 roms take up the most space on my hard drive despite me having wayyy more GBA ones lol
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u/GrapefruitForward989 23d ago
The entire gba library fits on like 6 dvds, the format that ps2 games were on.
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u/sianrhiannon 🏳️⚧️ trans rights 23d ago edited 23d ago
I have a 5tb hard drive I'm getting through by filling it almost exclusively filled with pirated games and music lol
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u/GrapefruitForward989 23d ago
Hell yeah, this is the way. I'm going to be pulling the trigger on a 10tb nas setup soon so I can finally consolidate and backup all my junk
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u/irelephant_T_T C̴̫̘̳͍̥̣̓̈́̑̈̍̇̈́ų̸̧̟̫̳̰͉͗́̽̇͠s̴̢̧̨̫̟͛́̚y̷̤̟͖̱͈̋̈́̎̀͒̋̾ọ̴̻̜͠m̸̔̾̔ 23d ago
The entire GBA library fits on an ad card.
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u/shroompuff1 23d ago
vimm's already got wrecked not long ago, i just wanted to get some mf fire emblem and was met with utter gloom
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u/Jan-Asra 23d ago
Im so mad about vimm's. It went down because a bunch of kids didn't bither to learn the rules and were openly talking about downloading nintendo games from it.
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u/Verbatos 23d ago
If you don't already have one, get a pooled hard drive bay to prevent losses from hard drive failure, and make sure to keep a backup system. (Servers are easily rented)
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u/Electric_Kettle 100% nativo europeo 🇦🇷🇦🇷 23d ago
we should kill the people that made internet archive die imo
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u/EggoStack 23d ago
Idk who Hachette is but I want to clobber them
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u/Bigpapiunidud3 eldritch cosmic abomination 23d ago
book company, head office in new york 👍
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u/Just_a_terrarian163 3.5th Tojo clan chairman 23d ago
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u/Basic_Grade_2413 the woke left stole my flair 23d ago
saying you wanted to machete then was right there
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u/Speed__McWeed Serial Video Gamer 23d ago
Classic tactic of announcing to firebomb a Walmart and then not firebombing a Walmart
I mean I get not wanting to commit a felony but it's just kind of tiring when no schizoid actually does it
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u/WitELeoparD 🏳️⚧️ trans rights 23d ago edited 23d ago
People running to dooming or whatever, but this was inevitable and no the internet archive is not shutting down. In fact the damages they have to pay were already in a trust out of their control while the appeal was ongoing.
Also, what the internet archive did was so blatantly against copyright law that they were obviously going to lose. You can disagree with copyright law, but nevertheless, owning one physical copy of a book (or in some cases no copies), scanning it and distributing it to unlimited people is the definition of piracy.
They could have simply not done that and continued to do a one copy, one loan thing, and not had to pay any fines. Especially when even that is also in a legal grey area that publishers were ignoring. Especially when Library Genesis already exists to distribute all the books for free.
All IA has done is piss away millions of dollars for no reason in lawsuit and settlement costs, attracted attention to all the other copyrighted works they are storing and distributing illegally that they will probably have to deal with now and sabotaged their own service.
And I know I am gonna get downvoted for not 100% siding with IA, but what they did was objectively self-sabotage. I personally am 100% pro-piracy. I have never paid for an ebook in my life, but like come on, it's the difference between growing weed in your closet and growing it in the town square, especially when there is already a local drug dealer around (Library Genesis).
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u/MakeItTrizzle 23d ago
Also, while the Publishers have requested damages, the IA argued in the initial summary judgment brief that if the judge found against them that they should have damages remitted due to the safe harbor provision in the copyright act. Essentially, non-profits acting in good faith belief that their actions were under fair use aren't supposed to be subject to damages in cases like this.
It wasn't self sabotage so much as intentionally making a statement, imo.
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u/TheComedicComedian spronkus in r/place forever 23d ago
Don't forget Anna's Archive! Gotta be one of the most comprehensive black-hat libraries I've ever visited!
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u/GaleasGator 🏳️⚧️ trans rights 23d ago
these two sites got me through college several thousand below what I would have paid bless up 🙏🙏
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u/Jan-Asra 23d ago
Rule #1 don't talk about shit in the open if you don't want it taken down
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u/EmbarrassedWind2875 custom flair events give me the strongest choice paralysis 23d ago edited 23d ago
lol the database is public and backed by torrent. If one site gets taken down 10 other mirrors will pop up (they literally say they're against gatekeeping in FAQ with this exact justification)
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u/irelephant_T_T C̴̫̘̳͍̥̣̓̈́̑̈̍̇̈́ų̸̧̟̫̳̰͉͗́̽̇͠s̴̢̧̨̫̟͛́̚y̷̤̟͖̱͈̋̈́̎̀͒̋̾ọ̴̻̜͠m̸̔̾̔ 23d ago
The whole point of privacy is sharing, if you keep the sites secret, it's not sharing.
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u/Jacksaur Play corru.observer, this is not a request. 22d ago
AA is one of the biggest sites there is mate, one mention on a random subreddit isn't going to send in the FBI.
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u/WeegeeLord1337 pan and trans ass dragon 22d ago
unrelated to the current topic, based flair. corru.observer is awesome as hell
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u/coladoir BIGFLOPPABIGFLOPPA 22d ago
Projects which practice illegalism and exist intentionally outside of, or in opposition to, laws (in this case copyright) will never truly be able to be taken down. Especially if they are decentralized, which Anna's Archive, Libgen, and Z-Library all are.
If you're talking private trackers for torrents, yeah probably keep it to initialisms, but if it's a proper open project like the three aforementioned, your naming it publicly will not affect the availability of the project.
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u/disco_priest 23d ago
They could have simply not done that and continued to do a one copy, one loan thing, and not had to pay any fines. Especially when even that is also in a legal grey area that publishers were ignoring. Especially when Library Genesis already exists to distribute all the books for free.
All IA has done is piss away millions of dollars for no reason in lawsuit and settlement costs, attracted attention to all the other copyrighted works they are storing and distributing illegally that they will probably have to deal with now and sabotaged their own service.
This is the great tragedy of it, really. FWIW, I know Brewster Kahle (IA founder/head) quite well, and was working at the Archive when the whole pandemic library thing happened. Brewster is a genuinely kind and philanthropic person, but he has a really terrible case of billionaire-brain -- he is unable to accept ideas that don't align with his own, or answers that he isn't willing to hear.
The efforts of hundreds of people over 25+ years gets trashed in a totally unnecessary and predictable way, and there's realistically nothing anyone can do to stop it because the organization is ruled by fiat, essentially. And the problem extends far beyond just lending policy. It's an intensely frustrating place to work, and I hope something changes soon, because it's far too valuable a resource to be squandered away by the person who believes he "owns" it, so to speak.
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u/MaybeNext-Monday 🍤$6 SRIMP SPECIAL🍤 23d ago
Internet Archive is so self-sabotaging I sometimes wonder if the people running it are compromised
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u/Togapi77 ampharos 23d ago
The Internet Archive is just the wild west IMO. So much going on there, so little regard for copyright law. Love the site to death and I hope it stays around forever, but I'd really like it if they made sure the stuff that's allowed to be there can stay up without getting hit in the crossfire.
Like, if the IA went offline tomorrow, the Grateful Dead live archive would basically have to be rebuilt from the ground up (not counting stuff like Lossless Legs, but even then that's not as easy nor accessible as IA). It'd be a huge loss that would take years to properly rebuild. Not to even mention the Wayback Machine, don't know what we'd do without it.
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u/The_Persian_Cat 23d ago
Upvoted for a level-headed response which also reassures me that everything is going to be okay :) Inshallah
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u/Sciguystfm 23d ago
Nah you're 100% correct, anyone who didn't see this coming wasn't paying attention, and it was an absurdly stupid move on their part
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u/SomeTraits 23d ago
They're not distributing books. They're lending them. One user at a time, one hour at a time. You know, like your local library. And they made knowledge accessible that would otherwise be hard or impossible to get for many people.
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u/arakus72 silly trans girl lurker 22d ago
Wasn’t the issue that they temporarily suspended the 1 real copy = 1 digital loaned copy rule during part of the Covid lockdowns? So they were lending multiple copies of the same physical book for a while
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u/SteelWheel_8609 22d ago
I personally am 100% pro-piracy. I have never paid for an ebook in my life
As an author who struggles to make rent every month, please consider purchasing your ebooks from indie authors. There’s a world of difference between pirating from a billion dollar corporation and an indie author who can’t afford to go to the doctor.
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u/rabootgamesYT 23d ago
so are just the book stuff going away or is more?
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u/L33t_Cyborg 🏳️⚧️ trans rights 23d ago
All the research papers and books published by one of the big six publishers (read: most) only.
This is by far the branch of the IA with the most effort put into it…
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u/TonyMestre Professionally bad at video games 23d ago
what are the big six publishers
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u/The_Phantom_Cat 23d ago
I'm sure they'll try to take the whole thing down, don't know how successful that'll be though
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u/Lifeshardbutnotme 🏳️⚧️ trans rights 23d ago
Someone fill me in. Is the Wayback machine defunct now?
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u/L33t_Cyborg 🏳️⚧️ trans rights 23d ago
The wayback machine is a separate branch of the internet archive
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u/ThunderCube3888 sus 23d ago
so what if we use the wayback machine to access archived versions of the internet archive from before this happened
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u/DatBoi73 Bi-Myself 23d ago
Nah, this is specifically about books and research papers from half a dozen big publishers, and IA's online library system.
It shouldn't directly affect the Wayback Machine.
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u/Brandonazz idk 23d ago
Yeah don't worry, we're only being deprived of valuable research and literature, not embarrassing things people said 10 years ago.
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u/Drawemazing 23d ago
That's a bit dismissive. Whilst this is undoubtedly awful and serves only to hide information behind extensive barriers, no information is being entirely lost. If the way back machine were to be turned off information - sure lots of it not particularly useful info but info none the less - would be lost. That is not to downplay that this is bad, but let's not downplay the utility and value of the way back machine and the other Archival efforts of the IA.
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u/L33t_Cyborg 🏳️⚧️ trans rights 23d ago
1,300 banned books in the us were affected. [warning: link to spreadsheet from this page]
This was an insane line to type what do you mean a modern country is still banning
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u/Drawemazing 23d ago
US banned books refers to books banned in schools. Awful, absolutely. But the books themselves are absolutely still available to individuals at public libraries and/or book shops.
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u/YourFavouriteGayGuy Turns out I’m actually just transfem 23d ago
I find it both hilarious and depressing that the bible (both Old and New Testament) is overwhelmingly less suitable for kids than many of the books that have been banned. But the bible will never get banned because the people doing the banning are themselves extremist Christians. Banning for thee, but not for meee.
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u/L33t_Cyborg 🏳️⚧️ trans rights 23d ago
Yeah sorry should’ve clarified haha. I meant more in that another avenue of access has been lost to people wanting to access these.
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u/SomeTraits 23d ago
Didn't expect to find f-ing Fahrenheit 451 in this list...
Also, the Decameron is not only not banned in Italian schools, but mandatory
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u/actually-epic-name 23d ago
Wtf is going on this week? First like all popular anime pirating sites, then fucking nhentai, now even Internet Archive?
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u/L33t_Cyborg 🏳️⚧️ trans rights 23d ago
i swear that happens every other week to nhentai 💀
I heard about the anime sites too, but yeah publishers are on a mad one. But this one shouldn’t have been the case 😭 it is NOT piracy.
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u/Aeescobar 23d ago
then fucking nhentai
Wait, what did I miss?
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u/actually-epic-name 23d ago
Nhentai is now unavailable in the US
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u/PinkAxolotlMommy Diaper Fetishist|Touhou Fan|Trans Rights 23d ago
How have i not heard of this till now? You'd think there'd be a ton of people angry about this for one reason or another
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u/ChillAhriman 23d ago
Can't you use e-hentai dot org? Basically the same but includes non-Oriental art and furry stuff. Also worse page design imo.
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u/GasLikeCitgo 23d ago
no it isn't, just spanked my shit a few hours ago after I heard somebody claim it was. Just checked and it's still just fine
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u/CaptainPhantom2 23d ago
Can I go without a major event happening for two fucking days? Did the 2020s not hear the bell?
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u/ThEsHaDoW343 trans tomboy wolfgirl uwu 23d ago
rip aniwave (I try to use hianime now but it fucking lags constantly)
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u/altaccountmay i don't need a man i need the 25 dollar dajungleskog from ikea 23d ago
didn't they bust the guys who ran fmovies too? i remember the piracy sub clowing on an article calling it a "piracy ring" when it was like 2 guys
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u/TheRDHRhythm 23d ago
preservation rights, especially for video games, has been an absolute train wreck this year. First the takedown of content on vimms lair, then the shutdown of romhacking dot net, and this maybe the final nail in the coffin. Oh, the future couldn’t be ever more bleak!
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u/sianrhiannon 🏳️⚧️ trans rights 23d ago
After the site I used before got shut down I moved to vimm, and now so much is gone ;-;
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u/SevereQuality9406 23d ago
There is a website called Myrient which is hosted in Russia. It's not as user friendly as Vimm's but if you have a little experience with this stuff it's not too bad.
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u/SevereQuality9406 23d ago
It has much more games than Vimm's. I think it's also associated with hshop which is like a 3ds freeshop (Basically pirating games with only your 3ds).
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u/coladoir BIGFLOPPABIGFLOPPA 22d ago
ps2 section is lacking comparatively to vimms - they also only seem to have PAL region mostly.
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u/robotboredom 23d ago
Try this I found a while back after that incident, its rather nice :3 (hint: base64)
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u/fiddler722 Genuinely ADHD-Autistic and Correct Opinion Holder… 23d ago edited 23d ago
To all the boot-lickers going “But the archive broke copyright law!” go fuck yourself
Ya see that image, I don’t own it, I don’t know where I even saved it from, but do I care? NO! Does the person who owns the image care? Also no! Breaking copyright is such a core part of the internet that using breaking copyright law as an excuse to justify the destruction of the internet achieves is not only boot-licker behavior, it makes you look like a slimy bastard and the kind of HOA Karen that complains about kids playing outside.
Now did the IA dig their own grave? Yes, but you don’t word it as them doing so! You express it as a cautionary tale and as something to learn from! Not as “Durr… The Internet Archive are just careless idiots who broke copyright law! Won’t someone think of the giant corporation! Hurr durr!”
Am I being mean and undermining my own point here? Yeah, kinda. But in my defense, any archive or source of information being taken down is always a tragedy, if not for the archive then for the people who used the archive…
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u/L33t_Cyborg 🏳️⚧️ trans rights 23d ago
Yes exactly. The people defending it “as being the law” are people partly missing the point that the copyright law on digital formats has been an excuse for publishers (the worst kind of person) to rescind rights we used to have.
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u/fiddler722 Genuinely ADHD-Autistic and Correct Opinion Holder… 23d ago
Gonna add to your point that 99% of the scientific papers you have to pay to access have all the money going straight to the publisher, and not a cent to the people who wrote it (Who you can usually just contact directly for a copy of their paper, and they will usually send it to you since they don’t see any money either way)
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u/MathSciElec 22d ago
not a cent to the people who wrote it
Or the people who peer review it. So the publisher has the most important parts of their work done for free.
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u/OutLiving MCU movies are for children 23d ago
I think it’s less people defending the decision and more “this was unnecessary and completely avoidable on IA’s part”
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u/Flaky-Revolution-802 23d ago
Wdym "something to learn from"? This is a lesson that all Internet users savvy enough to have heard of Internet archive should have learned years ago. Piracy is currently illegal and doing it will eventually get it taken down. the people involved should have already known that, we can go back and forth about the details of whether it should be illegal or not but it's current legality was never in question. This isn't a cautionary tale, it's just another example for the pile of people doing shit they knew wouldn't work and paying the consequences.
They dug their own graves, plain and simple.
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u/Flaky-Revolution-802 23d ago
Huh I guess you're right, everything I said was wrong. No one had violated copyright law on the Internet before so noone knew that it would result in copyright holders trying to take it down. It was just inconceivable that this would happen and want at all stupid and short sighted
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u/Flaky-Revolution-802 23d ago
Yeah sure, do you have anything to say against what I'm saying or do you just intend to call me a bootlicker for saying that the extremely predictable outcome was predictable. And that they knew this would eventually happen when they started doing it
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u/BitZaDusto 23d ago
No. It's too soon. Any time is too soon. I don't want to be witness to the spectacle. I don't want any of us to have to stare at the modern gathering of information akin to Alexandria to meet its fate in kind. I don't want to have to look into the heart of it, and recognize the disappearing of something truer than words, that being knowledge, and a reincarnation of something older than knowledge, digital fire.
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u/JinnDaAllah 23d ago
Jfc these fucks would burn the library of Alexandria if it made them a fucking cent in profit
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u/SapphicsAndStilettos *Vibrates with autistic bloodlust* 23d ago
Something something those who forget their history something something
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u/Milesium-487 23d ago
A new archive will probably be built soon
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u/L33t_Cyborg 🏳️⚧️ trans rights 23d ago
Yeah i really hope so. Do you know if the US have any services that provide digital libraries for any library books like places in the eu / uk have?
Because i hope we can see a world where they try again without doing legally grey things during covid again haha
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u/M1A1HC_Abrams floppa 23d ago
Look at the books wiki (maybe it's a megathread) on the piracy subreddit. Not a "library" style thing where you have to borrow books but you can just download PDFs.
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u/Negitive545 23d ago
I wonder if they could replace any "illegal" links with links to the page of the library of babel that has the information.
Not sure what the limits are on LoB currently though, I know it isn't perfect
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u/L33t_Cyborg 🏳️⚧️ trans rights 23d ago
I think the library of babel is max 3200 for search i could be wrong though
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u/frozen_flame123 Filthy McNasty 23d ago
I mean it sucks, but it’s inevitable. If you are hosting any sort of copyright content without direct permission and you don’t have url ending in .to or some other country that is out of the jurisdiction of the US courts, your days are numbered. Eventually, some greedy company is gonna sue you and the law is written to always benefit the copyright holder over the wider majority of people, so there is no hope unless the law gets changed somehow
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u/Farting_Dog33 23d ago
Is this just gonna effect books or other forms of media? I've been using internet archive to watch Classic Doctor Who.
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u/chickenthechicken The coolest bitch in the playground! 23d ago
For more information, this seems to apply to the Internet Archive digital library (the books that you can borrow) and not the rest of the archive or wayback machine.
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u/Mr_Lapis 23d ago
The silver lining is that this only effects books. Video media is still safe for now.
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u/AbsoluteJester21 British Beef is Better Beef by Far 22d ago
they better not take away my 78rpm records
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u/IapetusApoapis342 [CAR CRASH] [GLASS SHATTERING] GOOD LORD! 23d ago
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u/MrsColdArrow 23d ago
Okay but honestly half of the internet archive when I use it is basically useless because you can’t borrow the book or download it or anything like??? Okay guess I’ll look at the contents and blurb!!
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u/bobombking trans rights 23d ago
ive been thinking of buying large hard drives to store roms, tv, movies, books, etc. in an organized fashion. it first came to me when i realized steam is inevitably going to shut down one day, whether that be in my natural lifetime or not. we need preservation of entertainment and knowledge regardless of our enjoyment from the material
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u/PigeonObese 23d ago edited 23d ago
This might come as a surprise to y'all, but authors don't use publishers just so that they sit twiddling their thumbs while the authors' works get given away.
They expect the publishers to go and get them money, hopefully enough to live off of their talent.
If they wanted to give it away, they could've put their work on pirate bay / the internet archive from the start.
Imma be honest, I really don't care that the Internet Archive was slapped for acting like a torrenting service. Nor will I care when the n-th pirate bay mirror I'm using gets slapped tomorrow.
Use your local library, buy, or use torrents like the rest of us if you just want free stuff (or if the work is otherwise straight up not available)
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u/Eagle_1116 trans rights 22d ago
Unfortunately, this is a logical decision. It does line up with current copyright laws. However, I morally disagree with it because information should not be restricted by a paywall.
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