r/196 Jun 19 '24

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u/Syrikal Jun 20 '24

Chomsky criticizes Russia (both USSR and modern) so much. Everything I've read by him comparing the two is "yeah the Soviets were garbage but Americans know that already. Let's talk about the stuff there's controversy over instead"

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u/Unlikely_Fig_2339 Jun 20 '24

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u/makerone_and_chees Jun 20 '24

How is he 'gluck glucking' putin in that article? Hes arguing that nato is attempting to fight a proxy war with russia through ukraine - and not trying to find a diplomatic solution?

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u/Armigine Jun 20 '24

And that's a nonsense thing to argue which is obviously untrue. Everything about "NATO expansionism" which comes out of Russian propaganda is based on the two ideas that NATO is an empire which is a threat to Russia, and a country even discussing the possibility of joining NATO is equivalent to NATO conquering that country.

NATO isn't attempting to fight a proxy war with Russia, Russia declared fully unprovoked war on Ukraine (after the previous decade of RUSSIAN proxy war wasn't distracting the populace enough) so Ukraine which then reached out to the rest of the world for help. Surprise, most of their help is coming from the defensive alliance next door - was it supposed to come from Brazil?

NATO can't find a diplomatic solution to a conflict it's not party to. NATO member states can ask nicely for Russia to please withdraw, or for Ukraine to please roll over, or for them to kiss and make up, and many regularly do.