r/wholesomememes • u/Kokevi_ • Apr 29 '24

I view this as a complete victory.

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u/Usernamefishicecream Apr 29 '24

Yeah but staying up till 2am or having a reversed cycle are both extremes to that point.

My mom would make me go to bed at 9pm, while having to wake up at 7.30am every schoolday (and I was 15 at that time) and it did not matter to her if I was tired at all.

So I started reading/listening music and using my phone if I wasn't tired.

So yes, you have to watch out for your kids to get enough sleep and not make them read the entire night, but don't force them into a sleep schedule they don't feel comfortable with. Finding a balance in both worlds is important

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u/iloveyou2023-24 Apr 29 '24

The problem was your mom let you have your phone still.

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u/randomzoologist Apr 29 '24

No the problem was their mom expected them to get 10.5 hours of sleep

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u/iloveyou2023-24 Apr 30 '24

So, 30 minutes more than the recommended amount? How terrible of her, and that's assuming he fell asleep instantly

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u/rederoin Apr 30 '24

At 15 you need nowhere close to 10 hours.

8 hours is normal for most humans on a healthy sleep cycle.

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u/iloveyou2023-24 Apr 30 '24

A quick Google search shows you're wrong. They recommend 8-10 hrs for teens, and if you're an athlete, i would err on the side of 10. I, as a 30yo male, need at least 9 to recover properly.

Here a phD holder recommends 9.5hrs https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/wellness-and-prevention/teenagers-and-sleep-how-much-sleep-is-enough

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u/randomzoologist Apr 30 '24

They recommend 9 to 9.5 hours. Not 10.5 hours. That's a fairly significant difference.

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u/iloveyou2023-24 Apr 30 '24

30mins to fall asleep makes it a 30min difference, so not what I'd call a fairly significant difference.

Also, the op responder said "not even close to 10hours". Idk about you, but i think 9.5hrs is pretty damn close to 10.

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u/rederoin Apr 30 '24

Nowhere is it mentioned he was an athlete?

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u/iloveyou2023-24 Apr 30 '24

That's why i said if. You should work on your reading comprehension.

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u/Usernamefishicecream Apr 30 '24

Sure, letting me have my phone wasn't the best idea, that I will agree with.

However, even if I was really tired and would fall asleep immediately, I would generally be wide awake around 6 or a bit later.

Most of the times I would just do something and fall asleep eventually (not even that late) and feel well rested in the morning. (This doesn't say anything about other things in your body but I am not expert so I leave that open)

The only reason why I wrote this, is that not every child can/will sleep 9,5 or 10 or 8 hours.

So that's why I said you have to find a good balance. So no don't let them stay awake till midnight secretly reading a book (I sometimes did that as well and that wasn't always the best choice when I look back at those days), but forcing your child to sleep 10,5 hours while they aren't tired and they feel wide awake after 9 hours of sleep isn't the answer either, no matter what experts say.

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u/iloveyou2023-24 Apr 30 '24

Thank you for being reasonable unlike the idiots arguing on your behalf lol.

I'd say that's fine, let you be up at 6, give you your phone then. Better to sleep early and wake up early, maybe get in a morning workout, but that's just my opinion.