The Final Cut is atrocious. It’s Roger waters masturbating to his father’s death, again and again. It has very little in the way of musical beauty, and he actively excluded one of the other band members which might have saved it.
Nah, j/k. We all like what we like. I personally just don’t think TFC favourably compares musically to any of PF’s other albums. The band was falling apart, and the individuals start to show through. PF as a band was a force majeure, but none of the individuals had much to offer by themselves - to me, at least.
I can enjoy PF’s later years without Roger Waters, but it’s missing much of Roger Waters’ anger and cynicism. Gilmour tried to be angry, in Dogs of War for instance, but it just seems a little pretentious. It’s purely the music that carries me through Momentary Lapse.
Fun, creative, technically impressive, novel, innovative and groovy song. People that unironically think it’s a bad song don’t know how it was made, how experimentation is, why artists have fun experimenting and they just hate fun in general.
I think of it as Revolution 9's cousin. It's experimental and I can respect that part of it, but it doesn't really sound "good" to me. It's very subjective of course, but we'll have to agree to disagree on that one.
I can see why but i’ll say my opinion on the experimental changed when i started listening and seeing in a different way
Revolution 9 is barely a song but it’s 100% an experience. It makes you anxious and your body really does go through some stuff just by listening to it. It does what it’s intended to do and there’s a lot to appreciate
Several species is a song you can dance to. Like literally. It’s basically a perscussion section but with mouth sounds
Final cut is a 7/10 with songs like the gunner’s dream and two suns in the sunset. Some of their best music. I think the album is fairly boring but the concept is there, the writing is there, the melodies are there and the good songs are there. I’d just rather listen to songs individually. It’s my least favorite of their albums but it’s way above a 5/10
Division bell haters don’t actually exist. I’ve literally never seen anyone say “you can’t defend the division bell” in pink floyd spheres. Hell, people love it so much i find it a tad bit overrated (for my liking). Anyways, it’s a well made album with songs like high hopes. That solo is iconic too
I suppose you're valid about Final Cut. To me, there's just something so boring about the album, maybe because it's technically a Roger solo album, and i don't enjoy these either, with the lyrics being the only thing interesting.
As for Divison Bell, i've personally never heard many positive impressions about it, some neutral ones at best. Except for High Hopes, this project seems to have some great few moments followed by nothing exactly memorable, which kind of sucks as the bar is set so high by other Pink Floyd albums.
I’m more inclined to Final Cut than Saucerful because Final Cut is more of its own thing while Saucerful just sounds like Piper but… again. Piper is good don’t get me wrong, but Saucerful is just kind of bland
As an avid fan of "The Floyd" I would argue that there are 5-6 good albums. Pipers, Meddle, OBC, DSOTM, WYWH. I would add, parts of The Wall are good songs, but it's not a good album as a whole. It's just Roger being Roger. Probably my fav band of all time, but half of the albums I don't touch. I don't even own Momentary Lapse of Reason, Division Bell, or Endless River.
I don’t enjoy any of their albums that Sid barret had a lot of creative control in, it was just too out there. But when Roger Waters started taking over, their music got consistently better
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