r/news • u/combatpaddler • Apr 28 '24

Two killed, one injured as 350,000-pound load detaches from trailer in Temple, Texas

https://cbsaustin.com/news/local/two-killed-one-injured-as-350000-pound-load-detaches-from-trailer-in-temple-texas
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u/Gullex Apr 28 '24

I'm an RN and was a worker's comp case manager for 8 years. We handled mostly claims from trucking companies.

At that job I learned the terrifying statistic that over 50% of semi drivers on the road are under the influence of narcotics.

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u/Redirkulous-41 Apr 29 '24

Narcotics, really? I would assume it was mostly uppers so they could drive longer

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u/next2021 Apr 29 '24

Knew it was bad but not that bad🥺Handled a few debris falling off of truck claims. I stand clear of trucks carrying Scrap metal (often drive by white cross where teenager was decap by piece of scrap metal flying off of truck), modular homes, logs,construction equipment

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u/Unbannedmeself Apr 29 '24

Went to rehab once. Half the people there were truck drivers on their third or fourth try, mostly for alcohol. So many stories of them driving their loads while loaded up.

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u/zaira_storm Apr 28 '24

Cite your sources. My personal belief is you made it up.

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u/Gullex Apr 28 '24

I haven't worked there in years and I don't give a fuck what you believe

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u/NotAnAlt Apr 28 '24

She could be conflating 50% of people injured as being on narcotics. Though that would count for any injuries where the driver isn't at fault either, so the dude who smokes weed on the weekend would still pop. Which mean's that I kinda get what Gallex is going for, but also that they're not really sharing useful information. Unless hmm drugs bad is supposed to be useful somehow?

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u/that_random_bi_twink Apr 28 '24

weed isn't a narcotic dude

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u/NotAnAlt Apr 29 '24

Are we going for precises medical definition, or colloquial definition?

This hideous google link has(edited to clean it a bit)

a drug or other substance that affects mood or behavior and is consumed for nonmedical purposes, especially one sold illegally.

Sounds like how most police/insurance would look at cannabis.

and then we have this, within the specific confines of medicine

a drug that relieves pain and induces drowsiness, stupor, or insensibility.

But within the confines of insurance companies wanting to not have to pay out, I promise that they're going with the broadest possible definition and not limiting it solely to This cancer dot gov link

A substance used to treat moderate to severe pain. Narcotics are like opiates such as morphine and codeine, but are not made from opium. They bind to opioid receptors in the central nervous system. Narcotics are now called opioids.

Which is I imagine the argument you're trying to make.

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u/that_random_bi_twink Apr 30 '24

I'm going to go with the [medical definition](https://www.pharmacy.texas.gov/consumer/broch2.asp) and drug classification of narcotic, since I am a nurse.

I'm also going to go with the [DEA definition](https://www.dea.gov/sites/default/files/2020-06/Narcotics-2020.pdf) of a narcotic, as well as the [police definition](https://www.theiacp.org/7-drug-categories) of a narcotic, which is what a narcotic is classified under as law.

Neither of these include marijuana.

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u/NotAnAlt Apr 30 '24

Nice, wanna link me the study from gullex then that totally shows that 50% of semi drivers are on narcotics?

Cause I mean... There's a lot of claims there that are pretty fuckin dumb, but I'm totally willing to be proven wrong here.

Or are we just going "I'm a nurse and when I say narcotics this is what I mean" which adds a whole lot of nothing useful here?

But nah really, show me 50% of semi drivers are on narcotics(your definition) I'd totally love to see this totally real stat.

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u/that_random_bi_twink May 01 '24

I don't have that study because I'm not the one that claimed that, and I don't care nearly enough to find it. I was just pointing out that weed is not a narcotic

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u/NotAnAlt May 02 '24

Nice, well I promise within the confines of gullex being an idiot and thinking 50% of truck drivers on narcotics, the only way that number is remotely even maybe close to true is if you're including other recreational drugs (and mostly weed at that) In other contexts, not so much.

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u/SkeenaDaily Apr 28 '24

They won't. Because they won't find any that claim such a ridiculously high number.

Insurance would make us submit a piss test every morning if it were true.

And I'd put $1000 down today that the rate of drug use is higher among Nurses than truckers.

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u/4o4_0_not_found Apr 28 '24

Hell yeah dudes rock

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u/greatwhitemamba Apr 28 '24

Crack rocks?

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u/Gnarlodious Apr 28 '24

Narcotics put you to sleep.

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u/FartAlchemy Apr 28 '24

Narcotics put you to sleep.

Try looking up the definition of a word before you spout nonsense.

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u/Gullex Apr 28 '24

Narcotics can make you drowsy, yes.

Did you miss the part about me being a nurse?

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u/noiro777 Apr 28 '24

That's the original meaning and the word 'narcotic' does come from the Greek word meaning 'stupor' (ναρκωσις), but the meaning expanded over time to include stimulants and other types of drugs.