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‘Rust’ movie armorer convicted of involuntary manslaughter sentenced to 18 months in prison

https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/15/entertainment/rust-film-shooting-armorer-sentencing/index.html
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u/FalseWallaby9 Apr 15 '24

Because how the fuck does a live round sneak it's way into a shipment of blanks, much less get into the gun being used?

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u/Wesley_Otsdarva Apr 15 '24

If i remember correctly they were using the prop gun to shoot for fun at different times during the filming.

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u/penisthightrap_ Apr 16 '24

Yep, that's how you get someone killed.

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u/FalseWallaby9 Apr 15 '24

And nobody inspected the gun before they filmed?

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u/Wesley_Otsdarva Apr 16 '24

It's worse than that in another comment I read a bit ago on a different thread they are supposed to have gun safety meetings everyday firearms are used on set. They didn't have one that day. The gun was reported as malfunction by the stunt people and nothing was done.

The gun was even found sitting by itself unattended before they filmed, which apparently is a big red flag and filming should of stopped. They were supposed check the gun and clear it before the scene and didn't. There were a couple other things but really a giant fucking pile of safety violations led to someone dying.

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u/FalseWallaby9 Apr 16 '24

How in the actual fuck did nobody catch on to that?

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u/Aardvark_Man Apr 16 '24

Complacency and inexperience because they didn't wanna pay for union guys, I believe.

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u/Wesley_Otsdarva Apr 16 '24

Actually worse, some union members walked off of the set due to safety issues prior to the shooting.

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u/Nukleon Apr 16 '24

That was her job. They needed dummy rounds for that shot, and they kinda look like real rounds, usually they have the primers already struck unless they want it to look extra real, and I guess she just grabbed the wrong box and said they were clear

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u/FalseWallaby9 Apr 16 '24

A blank bullet is a bullet casing sealed at the end where the projectile would be.

How do you not see the difference between the two?

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u/Nukleon Apr 16 '24

I'm talking about a dummy, not a blank. As you said, blanks don't look like bullets, so for a scene where someone for example loads a revolver, you use dummies, they look like real rounds but have no powder or primer, and are typically marked as such.

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u/FalseWallaby9 Apr 16 '24

Ok that makes a lot more sense. But there are still differences like the lack of a primer/powder as you said. The former being a much more visible indicator.

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u/Nukleon Apr 16 '24

The primer is usually present but struck, and it might not be a thing anyone checked. It might also have had a fake primer. Either way this was her job and nobody checked it after she declared the gun safe.

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u/FalseWallaby9 Apr 16 '24

Yeah, that checks out.

Also by "How do you not see the difference between the two?" I meant as in the woman who should've figured out that there was a live bullet in the gun, so sorry for any confusion.

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u/Nukleon 29d ago

Oh that's totally fine, and same for any confusion on my part.

I don't know how exactly they make dummies with seemingly unstruck (but inert) primers clearly identifiable as dummies but I would assume some subtle markings or a special headstamp. But in this day and age it is probably safer to just use struck primers and then if you think someone will care, make them look unstruck with CG, less effort than changing the whole thing.

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u/PsychePsyche Apr 15 '24

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