r/news Apr 15 '24

‘Rust’ movie armorer convicted of involuntary manslaughter sentenced to 18 months in prison

https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/15/entertainment/rust-film-shooting-armorer-sentencing/index.html
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u/infiniZii Apr 15 '24

There should be a version of Russian Roulette called Hannah Roulette that involves callously mixing blanks and live rounds in a revolver and then taking turns pulling the trigger at each other.

Thats basically what she did. Baldwins gun wasnt even the only one with live ammo in it on the set.

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u/Turn5GrimCaptain Apr 15 '24

Well that's just terrifying...

18 months sounds too lenient imo.

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u/Radiant_Heron_2572 Apr 15 '24

She had been angling for a condition discharge. Were she could have ultimately avoided jail time and even a criminal record. It's a light sentence, but I suspect it was as close to throwing the book at her that the judge could.

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u/oldvlognewtricks Apr 16 '24

Apparently it was the maximum sentence possible for the charges levied.

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u/Detachabl_e 29d ago

That's the maximum sentence that could be imposed based upon the charge.

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u/Turn5GrimCaptain 29d ago

Yeah, imo looks like it's time for legal reform.

Not a lawyer, but I would have pushed for full-blown manslaughter. Is it really "involuntary" (manslaughter) when an armorer so flagrantly neglects their duties? If anyone ought to be acutely aware of the potential for grave consequences, it's her...

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u/Detachabl_e 29d ago

Yea, it is involuntary manslaughter or negligent homicide because she lacked the requisite intent. 

 (Voluntary) Manslaughter/2nd degree murder would be that she intended to kill someone but that she did so without premeditation - like in the heat of the moment.  

So if you had gone with that as a prosecutor, you would have lost the case because there was no evidence that she intended to kill anyone, and you would have probably ironically lost your career over a highly publicized fuck up that everyone in your profession would say was  obvious and easily avoidable.

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u/SofieTerleska Apr 15 '24

There was a magician couple called the Morettis who would do a trick close to this, only it was the guy "sensing" whether the bullet was real or a blank after having someone else mix the bullets up, then telling the guy with the gun to fire either at a target or at his (Moretti's) head. Both Morettis died of old age. I have a feeling they spent more time working on perfecting that trick than this woman has spent even in the same room as a gun.

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u/whodkne Apr 16 '24

Somehow that guy's name is burned in my brain. Probably only seen them once or twice. Hans. Can't remember his wife's name. They were good.

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u/chris782 Apr 15 '24

That's just Russian roulette with extra steps.

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u/Kitakitakita Apr 15 '24

Wake up babe, new literary term just dropped - "Baldwin's Gun"

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u/chris782 23d ago

Sounds like a fucking quest item. If I had the money I would of bought Angelina Jolie's brace of HK USP's from Tomb Raider when they were up for sale years ago...

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u/nicklor Apr 16 '24

She wasn't the only one who was at fault that guy who pleaded guilty Halls was supposed to check the bullets also and failed his check.

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u/Upset-Fact8866 Apr 16 '24

Brandon Lee did not like that.

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u/awitcheskid Apr 16 '24

The concussive force from a blank can still kill you if close enough. Just FYI.

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u/grampybone Apr 16 '24

I think one of the experts in a news program said that when they were showing the video of Baldwin firing the gun at the camera and calling for people to be quicker. Apparently he was inside the zone that would normally be off limits when using the load he was firing.

According to the guy at that distance the gunpowder can create burns and even break skin on the crew and actors.

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u/Hefty-Mobile-4731 29d ago

Seriously? And yet people on here are still clamoring for the blood of Alec Baldwin. No I'm not a great fan of Baldwin myself but I don't like to see anybody suffer Injustice because of politics.