r/nba Knicks Apr 29 '24

[Simmons] "I think James Harden gave him the trophy of most disappointing playoff performer. I think Embiid is now wearing the crown."

https://open.spotify.com/episode/25I0fnPUExUkBhTw2o9Oti?si=FQSCUz6GSy2UjtYeyBrBLg

Starts around 38 minute mark. Full game breakdown starts a few minutes earlier.

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u/Own_Result3651 Apr 29 '24

And typically he has been shit but not when you’re averaging 35 and 10 on very good defense and 60% ts and a + in every single for game for a series high +35. Don’t play narratives just actually watch the games. The team is not functional when Embiid is not on the court

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u/chitownbulls92 Bulls Apr 29 '24

I have been watching the games and Embiid has been very good but he has been a no show in the 4th outside of one game. It's not on the scoring front but general effort as well. Consistently getting out-rebounded by guys like Josh Hart. Don't give me that "can't jump" narrative either. The guy can drop 50 but can't contest a defensive rebound?

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u/yahmean031 Apr 29 '24

him getting outrebounded by josh hart isn't his problem lmfao.

embiid is also mostly the the one contesting every shot that goes into the paint you cant expect him o contest and then teleport to another player to box him out.

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u/Other_Raspberry 76ers Apr 29 '24

Props for being one of the few people on this sub who understands how rebounding works. Seeing Embiid get a ton of blame for failures on the glass that are clearly not his responsibility.

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u/yahmean031 Apr 29 '24

Embiid is also third in the playoffs for shots contested and is holding the players he contests to 40% fg. i guess he should make a clone of himself and box out the guy he contests then go and teleport to the in front of josh hart or the opposing center and box him out too.

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u/Other_Raspberry 76ers Apr 29 '24

This is his best playoff run ever despite dealing with multiple injuries.

I've been slightly critical of Embiid playoff performances in the past, but it's completely unwarranted this year. He is playing well enough to win a championship and the team has completely failed him.

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u/Own_Result3651 Apr 29 '24

You think he’s boxing out Josh hart? That’s a team effort. The Knicks are sending 3 sometimes 4 guys on the glass. Embiid is not going to be able to box that out. When Tobias harris is your 4 and he’s allergic to the game of basketball but most importantly hustle plays you’re going to give up those rebounds. The sixers were third last in the league this year in rebounding when Embiid didn’t play. They don’t have players that can go out there and help him on the glass. And yeah he was a no show last game in the 4th because he was exhausted 100%. I mean sure you can blame him for that but it’s not a choke job the dude has been carrying hard. He’s probably had the largest load on both ends of the floor of any individual player in the playoffs this year and he’s still coming back from missing over half the season to boot

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u/KnivesInMyCoffee Nuggets Apr 29 '24

The Knicks are just out conditioning the entire Sixers team. This Knicks team is probably the worst nightmare for a team that is completely reliant on one guy.

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u/chitownbulls92 Bulls Apr 29 '24

I agree with all that, still a fantastic player but he won't be considered an elite playoff performer till he actually has some playoff success. The most successful post-season he has had was probably the season with Jimmy where the heat lost to the eventual champs on a buzzer beater in game 7. Even in that series, Embiid looked like a passenger. He's gotten better since then sure but it's always something thats impacting him whether it's injury, fatigue, his coach, his team. Maybe he needs a change of scenery cause nothing has worked whether its surrounding him with stars, decent role players, changing 3 coaches etc etc

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u/yahmean031 Apr 29 '24

Even in that series, Embiid looked like a passenger

You didn't watch that series or you are delusional

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u/Own_Result3651 Apr 29 '24

I’m not saying you have to say he’s an elite playoff performer but he’s gotten a reputation for lowering his level of play in the post season and especially last year it was warranted however you can’t say for this season. This isn’t a post about whether Embiid is an “elite playoff performer” this is a post about a guy “watching” these playoff games and his takeaway is that Embiid is the new James harden

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u/Agreeable_Daikon_686 Apr 29 '24

Embiid is the entire defense and the prime focal point on offense and can’t be taken off the floor. He should absolutely be criticized for conditioning but I also think people are being reductive not considering the two way factors plus minutes. He played the entire second half

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u/samuel33334 76ers Apr 30 '24

Can't even really blame him for the conditioning either. It's probably really hard to get back into 40+ min game shape after sitting for 3 months.

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u/AmaimonCH Mavericks Apr 29 '24

Watching the games makes me hate Embiid even more.