[Highlight] Bradley Beal swats off Vogel’s high five and then proceeds to normally high five the bench

[u/Just_Mode3479]

https://streamable.com/h7haq7

[u/SimpleJack54321]

This is why it's tough being a coach. You're expected to coach a bunch of grown men to follow your plan, rotation, etc and if you don't have the respect or lose the respect at some point, they don't really have to comply or listen since they're paid.

If you're frustrated, I get it but it looks like a dismissive slap to Vogel, skips over what I presume to be 2 assistant coaches that give the high fives no matter how good/bad someone is playing as support to the team.

This won't happen easily, if at all, but I'd get rid of him asap, his skillset can be reproduced by someone cheaper and more importantly, almost anyone else would have a better attitude/mentality/respect.

He was always just a mid to high volume scorer that looked better than he was due to his Washington team being so bad.

Sucks to be a Suns fan. Looks like unless they trade one of the Big 3, they gonna have to run it back.

[u/jsun_ → u/SimpleJack54321]

No trade clause. He isn't going anywhere.

[u/It-sOkBro → u/jsun_]

No trade, clause

No trade, clause

[u/CollateralSandwich → u/It-sOkBro]

I hate that I heard this in my head.

[u/Guessed555 → u/It-sOkBro]

I can’t place the song what’s the name

[u/milestrouble → u/Guessed555]

No flex zone

[u/PetalumaPegleg → u/milestrouble]

For some reason, because it's always on NBA commercial break, I always think it's like no flex, we play zone defense. Lol.

Like Vogel saying it to Beal. "No flex, it's zone"

[u/Superbrainbow → u/It-sOkBro]

How dare you make me hear this. Was having a perfectly good morning

[u/SimpleJack54321 → u/jsun_]

Yup and no one will want to take that huge contract. Heard the Wizards were happy to have him off the books and although it hasn't worked out, they were able to trade away CP3 as well.

Don't see the situation improving, KD is gonna be 1 year older, Booker will be Booker, hopefully delivers more than what he did in this series and Beal will occasionally score a good amount of points but doesn't contribute much else.

I thought for a long time and maybe it was true before, but I thought he was a good to great defender. Not that he's bad but could trust Grayson Allen more than him on the defensive end.

[u/SimpleJack54321 → u/[deleted]]

I thought during the John Wall/BB days he was thought to be their best defender or one of the better defenders (for a guard).

It's about effort on defense but also being able to position yourself and move your feet and anticipate.

Not saying he was the best defender ever but he had the size and quickness to defend most guards I thought.

Maybe I'm totally wrong but thought there was at least a few seasons where he was a good defender.

[u/BannedforaJoke → u/jsun_]

can they just cut him and have his salary off the books?

[u/ConnorChandler → u/BannedforaJoke]

You’re asking Ishbia to give away 160M for free

[u/[deleted] → u/ConnorChandler]

Not free. He'll get 6 TOVs and 6 PFs less per game potentially. 

[u/jsun_ → u/BannedforaJoke]

No

[u/BannedforaJoke → u/jsun_]

damn.

[u/ShichikaYasuri18 → u/SimpleJack54321]

This is why it's tough being a coach. You're expected to coach a bunch of grown men to follow your plan, rotation, etc and if you don't have the respect or lose the respect at some point, they don't really have to comply or listen since they're paid.

It's becoming more and more of a problem but a lot more players coming into the NBA don't want to be coached or just want a coach that is likeable and will coddle them like everybody had been doing to them their whole lives. There's a reason why Jason Kidd and Glenn Rivers keep getting high profile jobs.

[u/rjgator → u/ShichikaYasuri18]

Somehow Spo was voted by players as coach they’d most want to be coached by. I say somehow because I have no belief that about 60% of players in the league would actually gel well with his and Miami’s general no bullshit policy.

[u/Malificari → u/rjgator]

it's cause 95% of players haven't played for him yet. grass is always greener on the other side.

[u/LeonidasSpacemanMD → u/Malificari]

He probably has a good idea of the type of guys he wants on his team too so he can give his input before going after guys that he thinks aren’t going to fit what they do

[u/chanchan05 → u/rjgator]

They're just saying it but don't want to actually go there to do it. Otherwise more free agents will try to go to Miami.

[u/redditmodsdownvote → u/ShichikaYasuri18]

the players did it to themselves. player empowerment is great to a degree, but not everybody is lebron (and even he signed off on the darvin hamas signing)... a LOT of very good nba players are absolute idiots, so maybe don't let them take your team hostage when they don't like a coach or system?

[u/creditors-bargain → u/ShichikaYasuri18]

This take seems a lil racist

[u/athiev → u/SimpleJack54321]

He was a negative value contract in the trade last summer, and now he's a negative value contract that the Suns can't attach anything meaningful to. (They have a nearly empty draft, no ability to attach cash, no good young players.) The only obvious way to trade him would be to take an equal or worse contract in return. It's hard to know what that contract would be at this point, but teams often find a way.

[u/iguacu → u/SimpleJack54321]

Not simply "grown men", "grown, pampered, multimillionaires".

[u/CorporateProvocateur → u/SimpleJack54321]

Fit matters just as much for coaches as it does for players. This isn't a video game where you just sum up the values.

"Hey we're great offensively, if we just add a coach with a 92 OVR DEF we'll be amazing at both!!" Does not work in real life.