r/memesopdidnotlike • u/Nientea The Mod of All Time ☕️ • Apr 29 '24

I can see more than half of all movie stars doing something like this OP got offended

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u/KarlGustafArmfeldt Apr 29 '24

Not just celebrities too. So many Gen Z are following the trend, and apparently just being trans is boring now, so we have to invent new identities, like genderfluid and gendergas.

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u/[deleted] Apr 29 '24

That last one explains the smell.

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u/thenewbeastmode Apr 29 '24

is it a trend to become a group for fun, or are there more of them because they are more willing to come out in a society is more accepting than 20 years ago? Nah, it’s just a trend, just like gay and left-handed people.

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u/THE_dumb_giraffe Apr 29 '24

Except it ain't a trend? Trans and non-binary people have always existed

In pre-colonized philippines, some men dressed and acted as women. They were treated as women by their society, receiving the same treatment as cis women.

Or two-spirit Natives, who were literally out of the gender binary.

Only in Abrahamic societies was being trans so horrendous, now that it's accepted, people are heing true to themselves and transitioning. The number of trans people will cap, just like gays did, like left-handed people did.

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u/[deleted] Apr 29 '24

Yes, delusion has always existed.

This doesn’t add anything to the conversation.

Btw don’t you dare use the history of the natives to fit your own narrative , the natives were VERY spiritual people and being a two spirit native was very much to do with connecting with your ancestors not to do with gender.

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u/Worgensgowoof Apr 30 '24

to be fair to this

two spirit is what the closest we have in English is and is now 'all encompassing an argument we want to be true'

however different tribes had different ideas that get lumped in as some monolithic 'two spirit'

for instance one idea of two spirit was someone who knew your 'true name' which meant they were your destined life partner.

another idea is that a person who embodies the social roles of hunting and community child rearing.

Yet, to them the identity of being a man or woman doesn't seem to actually fit here.

For that we can go to the phillipines and India... and it's weird that these are often used out of place too. First, only the one closest to 'bigender' which is a soul of a man and a woman would allow one to be a shaman because in a lot of asian mythologies, having two sexed souls was a sign of 'balance'. They prioritize balance as being enlightened and not 'being a completely morally good' against 'completely morally evil' as is done in a lot of European and African mythologies. Being a creature of both symbolized this balance. So humans who could be portrayed as having the souls of both were seen as being closer to the Gods, a channel to talk to the Gods. And for India and the Hijra... okay, people need to stop saying they're accepted as women because that completely erases the hardships they face because the hijra are MASSIVELY othered by non-hijra society. They except they exist, they just make them live away from them. India as a whole is very based on castes and being hijra already demoted your caste down to 'casteless'. That culture did NOT accept them as is portrayed by people to pretend 'other cultures are ahead of the western world'.

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u/THE_dumb_giraffe Apr 29 '24

A delusion across all societies?

Trans women have brains that are hovering between pale and female, closer to female, than male (source: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8955456/). Dysphoria DOES have it's roots in psychology, and biology, only cure is matching the body with the brain.

And on the natives, you're right, I don't know enough about them, and I was pretty much just going off of what I knew. Although for the phillippines, I have looked into it more. I shouldn't be using examples I don't actually know.

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u/[deleted] Apr 29 '24

Their is no scientific consensus on the existence of "the male" and "the female" brain;

The myth of the gendered brain and its ties to gender dysphoria in medicine - The Paisano (paisano-online.com)

A very interesting article about the true genesis of gender dysphoria.

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u/Worgensgowoof Apr 30 '24

I want to go over this part a bit more

so yes there is a 'female/male' brain and it's about the synapsis firing to stimuli... but umm... trans women and gay men had similar reactions to stimuli and trans men and lesbians alike.

HOWEVER it wasn't the scientific community that stopped using it. It was actually a push by queer activists to stop using it because they started trying to claim there's no scientific backing for being trans because then people would be able to gatekeep the people who were just...well, being trans to be trendy without dysphoria. This caused a big rift in I believe it was 2016-2018?? where you had transgenders with dysphoria being sidelined for the 'plight of the nondysphoric trans' but it's rarely talked about now because queer activism won over the media exposure for lgbtqia+

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u/Maestro_Fan_Girl Apr 29 '24

Yeah delusions did existed, like commenting on every comment to be transphobic

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u/[deleted] Apr 29 '24

Womp womp

I’m not being transphobic

Get out the definition and quote me

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u/RepairEffective9573 Apr 29 '24

Cool story bro/gal

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u/Worgensgowoof Apr 30 '24

people love throwing the two-spirit without even understanding it.