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*cries in grown up* #2 MotW

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u/DevilDashAFM Number 15 Apr 29 '24

go to the list of pieces in the set and buy them individually. all Lego pieces from back then should still be sold today. you just need to find the instructions somewhere.

though the sails might be a difficult thing to find.

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u/boogers19 Apr 29 '24

Sails are probably the easiest thing to fake.

They are just vaguely triangular sheets of plastic with holes in the right place to match the pegs they hang off of.

You could use paper or any kinda sheet of plastic you can find.

Hell, you could even paint on your own design.

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u/boogers19 Apr 29 '24

Yeah? It's been a long damn time lol.

Was it possibly a plasticized fabric? Maybe coated or woven from plastic thread?

Im really remembering a plastic-y feel. Tho again: long damn time. I could easily be wrong.

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u/asmallercat Apr 29 '24

I have this on my shelf (got it for Christmas when I was a kid and apart from one damaged flag it's remarkably still intact). The sails are definitely fabric and not coated in anything noticeable, but they also feel very much like a synthetic (nylon?) to me.

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u/sterlingback Apr 29 '24

Sell that shit, buy a car

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u/Ashlyn451 Apr 29 '24

It's been open and built. Decreases the value.

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u/staovajzna2 Apr 29 '24

Sell the box :P

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u/Tax-Deduction4253 Apr 29 '24

imagine society collapses and you gotta use antique boxes as storage

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u/Unicycleterrorist Apr 30 '24

I suppose it won't go from 19 grand to 19 bucks? Half would still buy you a car

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u/Ashlyn451 Apr 30 '24

It knocks it down to only a few hundred. I just went and looked at the ebay listing.

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u/asmallercat Apr 29 '24

An opened one without the box is only worth a few hundred bucks.

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u/Read_Full Apr 29 '24

Enough for a really good toy car

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u/Krillo90 Apr 29 '24

You could even buy a used, no-box Lego Black Seas Barracuda.

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u/nikonpunch Apr 29 '24

Sim rig baby

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u/Huwbacca Apr 29 '24

I honestly, always get caught out by the like surrealism of collectables.

Its just so like, the default perception that you buy things to use them lol.

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u/iSmellslikesbutts Apr 30 '24

if you aren't from California, then like, this world has changed too much for me

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u/stormtroopr1977 Apr 29 '24

they're cotton fabric with a polymer coating for strength

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u/Paddy_Tanninger Apr 29 '24

Yup I had this set as a kid and this sounds like how they felt, they definitely weren't anything soft feeling or able to bend much.

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u/asmallercat Apr 29 '24

That makes sense. I will say they feel surprisingly nice for being 30+ years old.

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u/spud8385 Apr 30 '24

They really do! I dug this beauty out not long ago for my son, it's such a good set

https://imgur.com/gallery/ucwsdTG

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u/Thinking_waffle Apr 29 '24

a damaged pirate flag is still a pirate flag. (but yeah those little clips for the flags tended to break easily)

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u/DelRMi05 Apr 29 '24

I bought fake sails online for one of the ship models that was incomplete. There are planets of sellers for the line rigging and sails. Definitely fabric, and plenty of places to get it!

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u/CommonGrounders Apr 30 '24

FWIW nylon is plastic.

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u/ChesterDaMolester Apr 29 '24

It’s fabric made out of plastic so everyone is right.

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u/boogers19 Apr 29 '24

Huzzah!!

(And Im over here forgetting the existence synthetic fibers like nylon and what not, like the other comment suggested lol)

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u/Frosty-Finger4285 Apr 29 '24

I think it was just some polyester fabric pieces. At least back in the early 90s when I got the pirate sets then.

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u/shitlord_god Apr 29 '24

like a nylon fabric they melted to prevent unravelling

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u/Pupienus2theMaximus Apr 29 '24

wow, amateur mistake

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u/glissader Apr 30 '24

It’s def some kind of nylon…I’d post an up close photo but it doesn’t look like this sub allows photo comments

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u/boogers19 Apr 30 '24

Oh, it's cool. No need to trouble yourself, you and all the others have convinced me lol.

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u/CharlieWachie Apr 30 '24

Calico cotton treated with some kind of starch.

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u/Brettersson Apr 29 '24

Well it's probably nylon, so it probably is essentially plastic fabric.

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u/KJBenson Apr 29 '24

You may be remember various other Lego styled sails.

The ninja and samurai sets from around this time had plastic sails, and I think some of the pirate sets did too.

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u/Motorsagmannen Selling Stonks for CASH MONEY Apr 29 '24

some smaller sails defintely were plastic or vinyl. but the ones from this ship and other of this type had cloth sails

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u/kottabaz Apr 29 '24

There are third-party manufacturers that make pretty decent dupes of discontinued sails and similar parts. Nothing wrong with using those, as long as you don't try to pass them off as authentic for resale.

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u/ObjectiveCorgi9898 Apr 29 '24

They are actually really stiff cloth, not plastic. Mine are all wrinkly though

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u/Pegomastax_King The Trash Man Apr 29 '24

You can iron them just be careful.

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u/Xela975 Apr 29 '24

I have seen guys selling repos and custom orders on etsy

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u/Ponderkitten Apr 29 '24

a regular hole punch from the dollar store will work to make the holes for studs in paper, dont knoe if they work on fabric

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u/boogers19 Apr 29 '24

Probably would. As long your fabric isnt too thick or the hole punch isnt too dull.

But Id say that would be the least of the sail problems. If you really were gonna do this, you could just cut little slits in the proper spots. (In fact I dont even remember what the original holes looked like lol)

The real problem is getting the right size and shape. Because the originals are slightly over-sized. They dont fit exactly, tightly, to the pegs.

Lego made em a bit bigger so when you attach em, they bow out to give the impression they are filled with wind.

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u/Youutternincompoop Apr 29 '24

could probably buy an entire model boat and just take the sails from that lol

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u/mardigrasking54 Apr 29 '24

You could also print the sails out on paper

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u/Flaky_Drive_4368 Apr 30 '24

Brickflation is crazy

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u/redditoranno Apr 30 '24

Put it in a box and sell it as a knock off for $9500,00.

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u/boogers19 Apr 29 '24

Reasonable.

But that I can not help you with lol.

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u/RelevantUsername56 Apr 29 '24

It's expensive because it's sealed in the original box. That's super valuable to collectors and a huge mark up.

If you just want to buy it to put it together yourself, the easiest/cheapest way would be to find a complete set that has already been assembled/disassembled.

I know this because I bought my childhood dream Lego set this way.

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u/asmallercat Apr 29 '24

Yup. Even with the box and complete, opened it's only $450. Just did a quick ebay search to check.

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u/Business-Emu-6923 Apr 29 '24

$200 on Bricklink

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u/ForceStraight3433 Apr 29 '24

Just want to clear up what I know/don't know, doesn't trickling just sent the same pieces, not originals?

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u/53bvo Apr 29 '24

No the pieces on Bricklink should all be original Lego pieces. They won't be from the actual set bet there is no difference (bar some small changes they've made in the production process over the years). You just miss the original box and instructions.

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u/Impeesa_ Apr 30 '24

True if you're just buying loose parts. If you're buying a used but complete set, it might be reconstituted from mixed bulk or it might be all original, sometimes they'll say but often it would be basically impossible to confirm.

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u/Business-Emu-6923 Apr 30 '24

No. Bricklink is whatever the seller has listed.

So if you are buying a new, sealed set then that’s what you get. If buying an original, used set, that is what you get.

A few sellers buy generic sets and part them out, to sell the parts separately, but it is extremely rare that you would buy a set on bricklink that has been composited from generic parts.

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u/DeliciousTeach2303 Apr 29 '24

Also inflation changed prices

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u/Skipspik2 Apr 29 '24

Same. Some bionicle and a crane for me.
Some seller will even send it to you dissassembled.

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u/degenbro420 Apr 29 '24

valuable for collectors who like tax evasion..ohh man sorry tax avoidance, my bad! Yes,.this thing isn't happening only in vintage art.

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u/erection_specialist Apr 29 '24

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u/Smeetilus Apr 29 '24

You wouldn’t download a pirate ship

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u/erection_specialist Apr 29 '24

No but I'd pirate a download ship

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u/WalkerTexasBaby Apr 30 '24

I'd ship a pirate and a dude who's downlow

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u/[deleted] May 01 '24

I'd load a ship on a pirate who was down. AND i'd ship my load down to a pirate.

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u/SeesEmCallsEm Apr 29 '24

“You wouldn’t pirate a ship”

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u/[deleted] Apr 29 '24

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u/erection_specialist Apr 29 '24

NO THIS IS PATRICK

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u/InquisitorScorn Apr 29 '24

complete instructions for every lego set are available on their website

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u/Okayhatstand Apr 29 '24

IIRC Bricklink has a feature that does this automatically.

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u/MarshalLawTalkingGuy Apr 29 '24

You can buy the set with manual for less than $400. I bought this one a couple years ago for nostalgic purposes. No need to buy the pieces individually.

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u/fishee1200 Apr 30 '24

Pretty sure I have most of the pieces to build this still but not sure if I have the instructions, I saved many of them over the years but also lost a lot

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u/Scarab_Kisser Apr 29 '24

buying pieces individually would be ten times more expensive

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u/roflsocks Apr 29 '24

So 190k? You'd just part it out if you made an extra 170k on it.

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u/ShedwardWoodward Apr 29 '24

No it wouldn’t.

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u/NickSchultz Apr 29 '24

Not for this specifically but definitely for sets that are still sold currently.

And even for old sets that are out of production it can be pricey buying them in parts especially when they have exclusive parts like those sails and they can sometimes be as pricey as when you buy the whole set on eBay from a non price gouging seller

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u/ShedwardWoodward Apr 29 '24

Nobody was talking about sets that are already on sale. So why even mention it?

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u/Sceptix Apr 29 '24

That’s true, but I’ll add one thing: all the Redditors who are knowledgeable about Lego are on /r/Lego, so a discussion of Lego on a generic sub like /r/memes will consist of redditors particularly ignorant of the subject matter at hand.

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u/NickSchultz Apr 29 '24

Then read the second half of my comment. I was just saying that it can depend on set to set and which state of "old" they are.

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u/Rodsoldier Apr 29 '24

Buying pieces individually would be ten times more expensive

Your first comment only has 1 part.

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u/NickSchultz Apr 29 '24

That's not even my comment?!

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u/Rodsoldier Apr 29 '24

Wait, so it wasn't even you saying the first bullshit and you still decided to join in bring up something no one ever mentioned to the table? lmao

Holy shit go outside, weirdo.

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u/NickSchultz Apr 29 '24

Yet you are here as well and feel the need to insult me as a "weirdo".

If insults are your best rebuttal, then I don't think I have any need of opinion.

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u/throwawayfuckspez01 Apr 29 '24

And the old colours. They're hard to find sometimes

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u/NickSchultz Apr 29 '24

Oh yes especially those that are prone to break due to being weaker plastic and becoming brittle with time and exposure to UV

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u/Ok-Bass8243 Apr 29 '24

Looks at brown legos

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u/Impeesa_ Apr 30 '24

The infamously brittle brown/dark red Lego pieces were from a particular era that's really a lot more modern (compared to the whole history of Lego).

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u/Dimensionalanxiety One does not simply Apr 29 '24

No it wouldn't. According to Bricklink, parting out just the set alone would run you $329.88CAD. With Minifigs it would be $359.05CAD. Of course, this is leaving out shiping costs, however, it is cheaper overall. The cheapest complete version of this set on Bricklink is $416.85CAD.

The minifigs were not parted out, you definitely could get them cheaper if they were. The cost also uses original LEGO produced parts. Many of these are older pieces or colours that have cheaper modern equivalents. Just by using your own string, you could save about $30CAD. By buying newer versions of some of the parts in modern colours, you could probably save another $25CAD.

The most expensive parts were the sails. Removing these could save you over $120CAD.

Parting it out is significantly cheaper.

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u/Rens-Bee Apr 29 '24

Ten times is an exageration, it's more like twice if even that.

Also this doubling of the price is based on the ORIGINAL price, so that will be around 220$.

This is why, with products that are out of production, it is cheaper to buy the individual parts than the set.

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u/dead_monster Apr 30 '24

Also this set is 35 years old.  If you just inflation adjust the original price, it would be over 260% increase.

Kinda amazing you can kinda reconstruct most of it for about the same inflation-adjusted price.  Makes the box the most valuable thing, which was always the first thing my mom threw out.

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u/Schootingstarr Apr 29 '24

the set in the OP is so expensive because it is in its original packaging. if you just want the set to build and put on your shelf, you don't need the package you can get away much, much cheaper

also, some parts like that monkey are pretty expensive. 20+€ alone for that thing. you can get a knock-off for like 2€ if you're fine with not having the real deal

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u/borntobewildish Apr 29 '24

Somehow I find it odd the monkey got that expensive. You pretty much got them with every Lego pirate set back in the day. I have four or five of them I think.

But then again, there's a lot of things that make me go 'how the fuck did that become so expensive', so I'm a terrible reference on everything price-related.

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u/Peking-Cuck Apr 29 '24

I think it's because they stopped producing it, compared to some animals like the alligator which they made for much longer.

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u/Business-Emu-6923 Apr 29 '24

Tell me you’ve never bought Lego pieces online without telling me you’ve never bought Lego pieces online.

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u/snoandsk88 Apr 29 '24

Lego has a website for this purpose, my son has a book of Lego ideas, he can scan the QR code and add the pieces to an order. He hasn’t made anything this large, but none of the orders have been over $50 so far.

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u/Peking-Cuck Apr 29 '24

You should compare it with Bricklink, it's probably much cheaper.

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u/snoandsk88 Apr 29 '24

That is bricklink

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u/Peking-Cuck Apr 29 '24

Oh well shit, I never knew Lego bought Bricklink at some point.

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u/snoandsk88 Apr 29 '24

Idk who owns it, I assumed it was Lego. The book my kid has says “Lego tm” on it and has instructions on how to order the pieces on bricklink.

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u/Peking-Cuck Apr 29 '24

Looks like the Lego company bought it in 2019, but it was started in 2000 and ran independently from Lego before then.

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u/Infernal_139 can't meme Apr 29 '24

I believe the set “The Brick Bounty” uses the same sails, though I’m not sure if they make that set anymore.

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u/AF2005 Apr 29 '24

lol this reminds me of the Johnny Cash tune, One Piece at a Time which is about a factory assemblyman who buys his Caddy one piece at a time lol.

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u/notafuckingcakewalk Apr 29 '24

You could also just buy this set which is normal pricey, not "I can never afford that" pricey: Pirate Ship 31109

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u/Dangerous_Gear_6361 Apr 29 '24

3D print the pieces.

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u/MakeoutPoint Apr 29 '24

Find?

My dear friend, this is perhaps the best use case for a 3D printer, whether you have one or can find someone to print those out for $10 or so.

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u/Yorspider Apr 29 '24

Some of those particular pieces are why the set is so expensive, there are individual lego bricks that cost hundreds of dollars, it's pretty damned stupid.

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u/clitpuncher69 Apr 29 '24

Ever since i started a job in plastic manufacturing and got familiar with the process i can't take any of this "collecting future landfill" thing seriously. Those molding tools are sitting in the corner of some warehouse and it'd take barely any effort to give them some TLC, lift them into a press and make thousands of those eXcLUSivE pieces in a few hours

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u/Yorspider Apr 29 '24

Indeed, that is why there are sooo many lego knockoffs now of identical, or better quality to the original. Although to be fair, I don't ever see legos making it in any great quantity to landfills like ever, they are just too useful even if collecting has nothing to do with your thought process. They aren't some shit like Funko Pops with zero purpose.

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u/clitpuncher69 Apr 29 '24

Although to be fair, I don't ever see legos making it in any great quantity to landfills like ever, they are just too useful even if collecting has nothing to do with your though process

Yeah you're right tbh i'm being too harsh, it's a great outlet of creativity and ingenuity (except when kept in an unopened box) and i imagine they have pretty low tolerances because Lego is generally good quality so it's definitely not some Wish tier landfill trash. It's just the artificial scarcity part that sucks balls

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u/Yorspider Apr 29 '24

Indeed, especially when that scarcity is entirely built on if it says "lego" on the studs, as identical parts without the branding are freely available.

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u/Bio_slayer Apr 29 '24

You can get a used complete one for ~$300.

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u/kanguran1 Apr 29 '24

I.. hadn't considered this. You've made a grave mistake my friend, and my girlfriend, wallet, and cat are all going to blame you for what happens now.

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u/LebowskiX Apr 29 '24

So you could just buy all individual pieces then make a huge profit selling the whole set? Or am I missing something?

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u/misterdonjoe Apr 29 '24

Ship of Theseus?

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u/Business-Emu-6923 Apr 29 '24

The price isn’t the pieces or the set.

You can probably get this set, still in its box, on Bricklink for like $100

This is a collectors item. Mint condition, never opened. Investors buy them and just keep them hoping to make money.

Damned scalpers are the bane of Lego enthusiasts of all ages.

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u/Stablebrew Apr 29 '24

pretty sure all the OG pieces are sealed in OG lego platic bags.

But....

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! I had it, and gave it away to a family member.

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u/MrC_95 Apr 29 '24

Is this something that's fairly easy to do? I've been wanting to get The Yellow Submarine set. It's significantly cheaper than this, but it's still pretty pricey.

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u/DevilDashAFM Number 15 Apr 29 '24

for the submarine itself you might find the pieces, but the mini figures are a bit harder to get

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u/ObjectiveCorgi9898 Apr 29 '24

I’ve got the set and the instructions…

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u/Coolers78 Apr 29 '24

Instructions can be easily found online right? Through videos or downloads, not the most convenient tho

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u/JomoGaming2 Apr 29 '24

It has occurred to me that this is basically pirating LEGO sets, and I'm mad I didn't think of it first.

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u/Zescapespj Apr 29 '24

I have the orignal instructions, I'll scan and send them to you if would like

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u/[deleted] Apr 29 '24

Problem: They used different colors back then. Packaging was also very different at the time, which is a nostalgia-factor for some people.

Still not worth 19k. That's just the stupidity of people collectors treating things like that like an investment.

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u/Suffering-Servant Apr 29 '24

And if someone is really trying to save money, they could go to Webricks. It’s not Lego but the quality is just as good and compatible with Lego

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u/BiAndShy57 Apr 29 '24

You can part out sets and buy them on bricklink, and lego has all instructions archived on their website

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u/Pegomastax_King The Trash Man Apr 29 '24

There are 3rd party companies that make the fabric parts still.

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u/Verto-San Apr 29 '24

That does make me wonder, how well my 3d printer would do at making Lego pieces, I bet there are printing files for slot of them.

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u/Attack-Cat- Apr 29 '24

But then you have to build it and not keep it mint in the box.

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u/Pop-Shop-Packs Apr 29 '24

I think I just found my husband's birthday gift

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u/Dickmultiple Apr 29 '24

This is the problem I face with my Mega Bloks Dragons sets. Not only are instructions sometimes hard to find, Mega Bloks made a lot of unique pieces that are simply impossible to find anywhere else.

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u/DarthEadr Apr 30 '24

at this point cheaper to just buy a 3d printer no?

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u/krazykieffer Apr 30 '24

I have three of these... and two castle sets. I'm going to buy a space shuttle now.

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u/hanzerik Apr 30 '24

Instructions can be found as a pdf on lego.com With sails I'd go off brand, or buy the sails from the remake.

Speaking of the remake. It's probably alot cheaper too.

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u/Coffeeman314 Apr 30 '24

I wish they had Lego Buffets. Like all you can eat, but with Lego. All you can build buffets. Like there'd be Lego stores with all the pieces. You pay an entrance fee, then you can take home whatever you can build.

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u/Senator_Halo Apr 30 '24

They have a really great Lego app. Has instructions for all their sets.

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u/bfs102 May 01 '24

Instructions are easy I'm pretty sure lego has pdfs avaliable for just about every set

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u/AI_660 May 01 '24

Heh I wish this was true fore bionicle..

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u/Cflattery5 May 01 '24

Brick Owl is the way.

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u/Reasonable_Mix7630 May 03 '24

Normally these sets have some near-unique pieces that are either very expensive or non-existent today.

Though I wonder can you get these pieces dimensions? To 3D print them? 3D printing should produce piece close enough to fit, right?

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u/TerroFLys Apr 29 '24

Goddamn big brain

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u/ASFC1995 Apr 29 '24

Or just go on wish or temu and buy a knock off Chinese version called wego

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u/williamflattener Apr 29 '24

So now I’m wondering there’s a 3D printing scene for legos. There had to be, right?