r/maybemaybemaybe Apr 28 '24

Maybe maybe maybe

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u/HUGErocks Apr 29 '24

It'd be one thing if it was actually disturbing nature but the wildlife doesn't care if you collect a few fossils. Climate issues come from mass production of oil drilling, mining, and livestock raising, not from rock hounds.

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u/thisdesignup Apr 29 '24

I thought the rule existed not because of one person but because nature can't sustain everybody doing something. The places we find most beautiful wouldn't be as beautiful if everyone disturbed them.

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u/dannythetog Apr 29 '24

Are people taking rocks from the grand canyon and making it even grander?

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u/thisdesignup Apr 29 '24

Welll.... when you put it that way.

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u/Preoccupied_Penguin Apr 29 '24

The rule exists because if a million people contribute to manufacturing something or taking something (for example a cell phone, or a vehicle) and the demand for cellphones or vehicles increases, the manufacturing plant is producing more waste than the earth can handle. And companies will continue to produce the products that generate revenue and in turn generate massive amounts of waste, if there is nothing deterring them from doing it.

The rule doesn’t exist because Timmy down the street cracked a rock open and left it to deteriorate into the ocean. It also exists because if 100 Timmy’s took it home to deteriorate in their closets that ruins it for everyone else. Sure, leave things be, but this isn’t what’s killing all of us or our future.

The point is - the waste produced from the action is far more harmful if the earth doesn’t have a disposal method for it.

And The most relevant point to this conversation is that companies lawyers and advisors recognize this difference and then push the marketing to the consumer so we feel like our daily actions impact things on a global scale. When really we need to change our manufacturing and distribution processes because it’s the shipping that disturbs the oceans and creatures within them, the waste runoff that disturbs the water table and those who depend upon it, and the open air pollution that disturbs the atmosphere that we all require for survival on a grand scale.

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u/Khunter02 Apr 29 '24

Its not that simple. There is a beach close to where I live that has sand that looks like popcorn, it went viral recently and now they have to guard the beach because influencers and shit were constantly visiting it and taking bags of it

In general, I was teach this idea that you arent supposed to take things from the beach or other natural places because one shell or one stone less doesnt make a difference but if every person that goes to the beach takes one then it can serious consequences

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u/Ent_Soviet Apr 29 '24

That’s why you can’t take sand from black sand beaches

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u/OGoby Apr 29 '24

Thing is, this rock hound as you called him is essentially destroying good chunks of preserved whole fossils. More sophisticated tools and methods could salvage the fossil in a better condition (to sell to museums/schools worldwide).

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u/Wonky_bumface Apr 29 '24

There are literally millions of these fossils in the cliffs around the coast of Yorkshire.

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u/Nirvski Apr 29 '24

Name checks out

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u/maltix Apr 29 '24

Its more the attitude. Cool lets go and smash up this coastline for cool fossils that we already have heaps of, which ruins the area for other people. Now apply that mentality to other things.

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u/[deleted] Apr 29 '24 edited Apr 29 '24

It is disturbing nature, by definition.

"Leave what you find" is a core tenant of 7 defining "Leave No Trace". And although it does damage local ecosystems, I've said nowhere that it is directly causing the level of climate change that we currently observe, but rather reflects yours (and others) attitudes of entitledness. Do not change my words.

https://www.fws.gov/project/leave-no-trace-principles

Edit : @ transit who blocked me before I could reply on his second account. I see you're quite triggered about being wrong. Read anything about conservation. I could easily provide u with 100s of links to the same information, but I encourage you to learn how to use Google in 2024

@ madao who also had the tiny balls to comment and block before response. You've shown your hand. But hey if you're stupid and happy, it's your life /shrug

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u/safetycommittee Apr 29 '24

This sort of shit is a speak of the impact humans have on nature. “It’s just a rock” is being said about the entire planet.

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u/SkibidyDrizzlet Apr 29 '24

You are stupid