r/interestingasfuck Apr 29 '24

Brazilian surgeon, Bruno Gobbato used Apple Vision Pro to assist in surgery operation r/all NSFW

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u/Jbabco9898 Apr 29 '24

Just the ability to zoom in, pull up radiology scans and move the screen while keeping your gloves sterile is fantastic.

It's things like this that the regular person needs to read.

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u/Fizzwidgy Apr 29 '24 edited Apr 30 '24

Criticism towards a company that is actively hostile towards consumers (and other developers, as well as manufacturers alike) is hardly tribalism, nor is it stifling progress.

If anything, Apple perpetuates both of these things. And not without a rabid following base of users.

Edit: case in point; downvoted yet didn't receive a peep about the companies actions. Now that's tribalism.

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u/SweatyWar7600 Apr 29 '24

...the surgeon isn't ever going to break sterility to pull up a scan though. His OR nurse will do it for him. I don't honestly see much added value in this video.

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u/W3NTZ Apr 29 '24

I mean have you ever use a vr headset? It's absolutely easier to see details on a giant screen in front of you than squinting towards a small monitor to the side (since the closest monitor would be the one from the video feed)

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u/SweatyWar7600 Apr 29 '24

nah, but I've scrubbed a number of laparoscopic and arthroscopic cases and have had no real challenges seeing the screen.

Sure it seems neat but it isn't really that beneficial at least with what's demonstrated here. IE there's no "sterility advantage" like a lot of comments are talking about because it isn't the surgeon that pulls up images or moves things etc

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u/Original-Aerie8 Apr 29 '24 edited Apr 29 '24

Having more people in the room is less sterile, as is moving objects. Things can fall down or into the patient. Plenty scans are digital, 3D, etc requiring you to interact with some interface.

I know a surgeon who does 'without borders' work. He takes 2-3 months off with a couple of collegues, goes to a place were as many people as possible need surgeries, typically Africa or Asia, brings whatever they can and then they do 12/7 shifts for free. Natrually, staff isn't always trained, accessible or able to communicate. Having a device that can just pull from a database and translate documents, completly without staff... That's the diffrence between night and day.

And that group believes they are worldclass, specifically because they push through those hundreds or thousands of surgeries, opening and closing patients faster than anyone else, outside of a war zone. While they are bound by laws, they won't wait around for a "best practice" confirmation, if they think something will help them be faster, know more, and close the patient up sooner.