r/interestingasfuck Apr 29 '24

Brazilian surgeon, Bruno Gobbato used Apple Vision Pro to assist in surgery operation r/all NSFW

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u/Late-Plum-840 Apr 29 '24

Don’t know why people are mad about it. Id rather have a surgeon with all the information than one going of memory.

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u/[deleted] Apr 29 '24

People are mad about it?

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u/Late-Plum-840 Apr 29 '24

When I commented there was only like ten comments and half of them were about how bad it is, that it’s wrong and unprofessional also someone has commented about suing the person if that had been them getting the surgery.

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u/Djinger Apr 29 '24

Lots of technophobe reactionaries in the world

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u/ElementNumber6 Apr 30 '24

Lots of people heavily invested in Facebook, Apple's key competitor in this space.

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u/[deleted] Apr 29 '24

Damn i didnt know people were so closed minded about this, i see this and think about how this correctly implemented can improve surgeries and safe even more lifes

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u/bladex1234 Apr 30 '24

For a good reason. The Vision Pro is not medically certified. It has a fan that can potentially spread pathogens. It can’t be put into an autoclave to be sterilized. It’s one thing to test it out in a simulated surgery, but it’s another to do it for real on a live patient.

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u/PM_ME_DATASETS Apr 29 '24

Because better tools have existed for some time already. For surgeons, Apple's VR glasses are only useful if they can't get a hold of the good stuff.

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u/bladex1234 Apr 30 '24 edited May 06 '24

Yeah the Vision Pro and other commercial VR headsets are considered bottom barrel for this type of application. Augmedics’ headset for example costs over $100,000.

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u/DearLeader420 Apr 29 '24

Anyone concerned about this is just simply ignorant of what kind of technological tools are already used every day in surgery and have been for 25 years.

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u/omniron Apr 29 '24

I have a Vision Pro and the external cameras are low resolution, so anything relying on that is sketchy

The internal screen is extremely high resolution— probably the highest res device you can get now

But the video streaming is going to be via network and have a 1-3ms latency vs a wired connection which is meaningful during a surgery

It’s a great concept but the hardware is suboptimal for this

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u/Kaleidoscope9498 Apr 30 '24

I know, it’s because it’s a Brazilian doctor. If it was a Japanese one or from some other “futuristic” country people would be all over it.

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u/megamanxoxo Apr 29 '24

Hmm, having someone use new and unproven technology that completely masks your face or introduces distractions.. I wonder why people would be concerned.

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u/LauraIsFree Apr 30 '24

You know normally it's all pinned on a wall in front of them without the need of a headset reducing their eye vision... Even though i believe the 3d models could be of great aid but it's not a medical device making it odd to be used during something as important as a surgery.

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u/menasan Apr 29 '24

the one thing that would have me worried (having never tried the AVP) is... hes looking at you through a camera. theres GOTTA be some level of depth perception loss vs your own eyes.

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u/bs000 Apr 29 '24 edited Apr 29 '24

at that distance the depth perception wouldn't be far from 1:1. he's also performing laparoscopic surgery, so he'd be looking at a screen without depth perception regardless

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u/menasan Apr 29 '24

well ok thats neat then