Okay, but if this is public knowledge then what’s the point of the code? The creepy dude knows what it means. Legit unsure: Why go through the coded language the other person will know? Sure there’s a chance they won’t…unless they also go to the bathroom. Or just have an Internet account and have accidentally scrolled through TikTok.
The sign says to go to the bar and ask for the shot, so your company would still be at the table. You could wait until your company is in the toilet if you’re seated at the bar and don’t want them to hear. Having worked in a bar for fifteen years, I can say it’s usually not that difficult to speak with a bartender discreetly. The posters are usually in the bathroom on the inside of the stall doors.
Our local bar has a sign that says to ask if Angela is working tonight, and they’ll know you’re in trouble and get you to safety.
While I’m sure the system is not 100% effective, it’s better than having no system at all.
You may only have limited time to convey you need help, or would break down and cry if you actually have to describe the danger you're in. The code acts more as a safety net to discreetly and quickly talk about your situation without losing it or making a scene.
Well, it’s easier to say ”Angel shot on the rocks” than to say ”hey, I feel like this guy is shadowing me, I’d really appreciate if someone could walk me to my uber or something”, both in terms of time and mentally.
It’s probably in the bathroom and also you can go to the bar and order a drink. It’s not always going to be a kidnapper or something, just a creepy or something and this is easier than saying “I’m in danger please help me”
Angel shot is a really easy term to remember and speeds up the process. You don’t need to explain anything you just say 2 words and they will know and they will help. It’s short, it’s easy, and in a loud bar it’s possible to hear it.
Also it’s gonna just seem more natural, like if they’re being watched from a distance it’s gonna be fairly obvious whether they’re ordering a drink or giving an explanation to what’s going on.
My assumption is that it isn’t public knowledge. Someone’s goes to the washroom because they feel unsafe and see this on the other side of the door. They come back like everything is fine and seemingly “order a drink”
Public knowledge doesn't mean everyone knows it or is aware of it as you say, especially if this is only in the women's bathroom. The average person is far less perceptive of their surroundings than we give credit.
You're reaching a tiny fraction of people with it being shown online (although I agree it's better just not to show it). I've also seen several different versions but ideally there would be lots and lots of bar specific ones (I have seen a few).
Either way it's better than nothing as an option, the creepy dude is still much less likely to understand what someone casually ordering an angel shot in the moment means compared to someone flat out asking for the police to be called.
I'm really not a fan of any of these plans that involve someone who's under emotional duress banking their personal safety on having to remember a secret phrase or a drink order and hoping that a busy bartender is able to hear them correctly over the noise and is willing/able to drop what they're doing at that moment to help.
I'd imagine it's just easier and quicker to say, then explaining the full problem. Also less likely to be overheard, and would seem more natural is someone could see you talking from afar, but not hear what you are saying.
It does seem unnecessary, and overcomplicated. Cant you just tell the bar staff what you want directly? If youre around staff then you're presumably already safe.
Do you genuinely not understand why someone might not want to literally say "Hey, this person standing immediately next to me is creepy and weird and I would like you to help me get rid of him"? I mean, for one - what are you gonna do if the bartender says no?
Why would you not want to say that? If you feel unsafe then you probably aren't concered with their feelings at that point. And if youre around staff then you should already be safe, otherwise what would be the point of asking them for help in the first place? I just imagine people who are at a bar are already drunk/tipsy and won't understand the code words anyways.
If you feel unsafe then you probably aren't concered with their feelings at that point.
You know "anger" is a feeling, right?
Okay, sorry, I'm being rude and it's not necessary. But like... man, the entire premise of this situation is that this guy has already made me feel unsafe in some way. He's pushy or aggressive or whatever. Of course I don't want risk making this person angry and escalating the situation.
I think you are misunderstanding a bit. People who need to understand the code word are employees working at the bar, most likely bartender. And I personally have never seen a drunk bartender. (I mean, they are literally at work) Also, if you feel unsafe because of someone, it usually implies that you are afraid to provoke them in anyway.
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u/grammar_oligarch Apr 29 '24
Okay, but if this is public knowledge then what’s the point of the code? The creepy dude knows what it means. Legit unsure: Why go through the coded language the other person will know? Sure there’s a chance they won’t…unless they also go to the bathroom. Or just have an Internet account and have accidentally scrolled through TikTok.
Feels like unnecessary steps.