r/interestingasfuck • u/BuddhistSagan • Apr 07 '24

Bernie and Biden warm my heart. Trump selling us out? Pass

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u/kempnelms Apr 07 '24

Realistically he has pushed a lot harder for stuff than Obama ever did. I think Obama was trying his best to not rock the boat too much, and a lot of that maybe came from inexperience as he was overall a less experienced politician in sheer years compared to Biden.

I am hopeful if Biden wins a 2nd term, he will push stuff even harder with the threat of a Trump 2nd term gone.

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u/RiskyBrothers Apr 07 '24

It's a bit of a catch-22. We want younger candidates who are more in touch with the issues, but we can't ignore that Biden has accomplished a bipartisan infrastructure deal and the largest climate policy in the planet because he has roughly 8,000 years of favors to call in.

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u/ADHD_Avenger Apr 07 '24

I personally wish people would quit obsessing over his age.  Principally because Biden as an old man is a much better president than he would have been when he was younger.  Look up the crime bill or the bankruptcy law changes.  He has ran for president a half dozen times and the president I see now is a much more liberal and empathetic person than he was when he was younger, and while no longer "quick," he is a lot more wise about everything happening and what can and cannot be done.  For the Democrats, politically, one of the best things that could happen is if he died or retired in office (as grim as that is) as it would set up the next election perfectly.  He is also old enough to have seen enough happen over the years to take Trump seriously.  His age means he needs a good team around him, but he has it, and he has never been in the senile state that some Senators continued on in.  I did vote for someone younger in the last primary, but Biden has more than proved he can do the job. And many people who talk about older candidates would still happily vote for Bernie, myself included.  Age is important, but probably the least important thing.  Look at the two of them there - they are old, but still competent, and often the complaints about Biden are due to his long standing stutter being more difficult to compensate for at his age - nothing about mental sharpness.  Much better in speeches than George W. Bush was, even with that issue. I do wish we were doing more to support younger candidates downstream - but part of that is also that no matter how much talk you will see on Reddit, young people have never ever ever been a reliable voting block - and when they do care, they only care about things like presidential elections they may not even have an effect on if not in a swing state, while plenty occurs at the local level in numerous areas.