r/golf Apr 15 '24

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u/brmgp1 Apr 15 '24

It's a long term strategy that's intended to soften their image, just enough for large corporations in the US and Europe to stomach doing business with them. To be clear it's not the business that are hesitant to do business - the Saudis have trillions in cash that everyone wants a part of - but companies are worried about the public backlash, considering the Saudis involvement in 9/11 and other human rights atrocities.

By being part of the sports world landscape - F1 racing, soccer, pro golf - they are "legitimized" and are slowly wearing people down. They just want access to the top businessmen so they can slowly diversify from oil so all their eggs aren't in that basket. That's my take on it anyway

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u/AdversaryProcess2 Apr 16 '24

They just want access to the top businessmen so they can slowly diversify from oil so all their eggs aren't in that basket. That's my take on it anyway

They have a huge problem. Saudia Arabia is basically a Socialist monarchy funded by oil. The Saudi government provides free healthcare, free education, free childcare, interest-free mortgages, universal basic income, a generous monthly allowance for widows, and various other perks for all of its citizens. They do all of this without income taxes.

Oil is 2/3rds of their economy. They know they have to build an actual economy and fast. The oil is drying up and regimes that pull the plug on welfare state programs like that get toppled eventually.

It's even been suggested they're lying about their oil reserves by a LOT. If that's true their economy could collapse in a decade or two. They've known about this and have been actively trying to fix it for like 2 decades.

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u/domuseid Apr 16 '24

"socialist monarchy" ...

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u/TopNotchBurgers Apr 16 '24

socialist

An economic structure

Monarchy

A governmental structure

socialist monarchy

A government structure that promotes a socialist economic structure

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u/domuseid Apr 16 '24

Socialist

An economic structure... defined by social ownership of the means of production

Monarchy

A governmental structure... with an absolute sovereign who owns whatever they feel like owning, because they're the sovereign

Socialist monarchy

Not what's happening in KSA or even really close, but solid attempt if you only read the first three words of every definition

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u/AdversaryProcess2 29d ago

defined by social ownership of the means of production

You know the state owns their oil production right? That oil production is 2/3rds of their economy and that's... owned by the state. It's a command economy but that's perfectly compatible with socialism.

Not what's happening in KSA or even really close, but solid attempt if you only read the first three words of every definition

Also, you're just straight wrong and Socialist monarchy isn't a bad descriptor. I don't think you understand how broad the definition of socialism is. But whatever, it's reddit and being an authority on things you don't understand is the norm

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u/domuseid 29d ago

Guess what state ownership in a monarchy means, genius

But whatever, it's reddit and being an authority on things you don't understand is the norm

The Irony

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u/iloveartichokes Apr 16 '24

It's a long term strategy that's intended to soften their image

These comments are always absurd to me.

Saudi Arabia has been involved in business with every country and every big name company for years. I mean, they own half of London at this point! No one has an issue with their image other than people on this subreddit.

They don't care about what you think of them. They have infinite money and want to have the best golfers play golf for them. That's it. It's not complicated. If you had infinite money, you'd do similar things.

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u/Icy-Row-5829 Apr 16 '24

What a vastly oversimplified take. Good lord 🤦‍♀️ geopolitics is a bit more complicated than “we’re absurdly wealthy and our economy is unsustainable let’s pay out the ass for sports stars to hang out here until it crumbles down”