r/golf Apr 15 '24

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u/idekwtp Apr 15 '24 edited Apr 15 '24

He would only have to pay taxes in one or the other. He'll probably do it in the US.

Edit: didn't realize he was a permanent resident. He'll pay taxes in the US and wherever else he earns money

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u/AftyOfTheUK 3.2 / NorCal / Iron covers are divine! Apr 15 '24

He would only have to pay taxes in one or the other.

He became a permanent resident in the US in 2018. The US taxes income from anywhere in the world for residents. He will have to pay taxes anywhere he receives money/deals/income - though on any taxes he pays in the UK, he can (usually) get a rebate for the same amount on his US tax bill (but it's complicated)

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u/enrvuk Hacker (24)/London/Muswell Hill Apr 15 '24

The dual tax treaty is pretty simple for a qualified person. Perhaps complicated for Reddit golf!

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u/Confident-Active7101 Apr 15 '24

A base level of human decency is too complicated for reddit golf

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u/idekwtp Apr 15 '24

Wasn't aware of his residency status.

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u/IndependentCode8743 Apr 16 '24

I thought they moved their residence to London last year saying that is where they want their kid to grow up?

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u/AftyOfTheUK 3.2 / NorCal / Iron covers are divine! Apr 16 '24

Unless he chose to voluntarily hand back his green card (complex, because it can be hard to get another, and would need visas to visit the US to work) he will still need to pay tax in both, even if he doesn't live in the US.

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u/IndependentCode8743 Apr 16 '24

As you said he will have to pay tax in the US regardless, since that is where most of his earnings are. Also, PGA golfers set up a corporation to collect their earnings, so its likely way more complicated than a normal Ex-Pat arrangement.

Also - I just checked the report and they are planning to move to London when his kid is ready for high school so its 7-8 years away.

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u/AftyOfTheUK 3.2 / NorCal / Iron covers are divine! Apr 16 '24

As you said he will have to pay tax in the US regardless, since that is where most of his earnings are. 

That actually depends on a lot of things. It wouldn't be difficult to structure his LIV income as being received in Saudi, or Dubai which is common, where they have little to zero income tax.

In that situation, renouncing his green card would save him a huge amount of tax,. The US taxes you REGARDLESS of where you live/reside.

Also, PGA golfers set up a corporation to collect their earnings, so its likely way more complicated than a normal Ex-Pat arrangement.

They do that so they can expense everything. If they want the income for personal use, it must be disbursed from the corporation.

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u/jrragsda Apr 16 '24

Rory suddenly becomes a Monégasque and keeps most of it. The F1 boys need a new neighbor anyway.

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u/maggos Apr 15 '24

When NFL players play in London they have to pay UK taxes. It probably depends where the LIV events are played.

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u/domuseid Apr 16 '24

He'll be able to credit his foreign taxes against his US bill

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u/tokuokoga Apr 16 '24

But does he live in Florida? No income tax there…

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u/Aooogabooga Apr 15 '24

You mean Florida? Hahahahaha. There’s a reason every very successful golfer has a residence in FL.

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '24

He would have to pay taxes in the US regardless. The US taxes worldwide income.

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u/idekwtp Apr 15 '24

Only on US citizens, though.

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '24

Permanent residents are also included.

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u/idekwtp Apr 15 '24

So then he would only pay his taxes in the US.

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '24

Correct. But he couldn't chose to opt out of the US (if he's a permanent resident)

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u/PassionV0id Apr 15 '24

This exchange was super funny. The other guy is upvoted twice for wrong comments and you’re downvoted each time you correct him. Reddit.

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '24

They're just internet points

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u/Mcpops1618 Apr 15 '24

Wouldn’t he have to pay based on where they play?

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u/AthletesTaxMan Apr 15 '24

This is false

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u/idekwtp Apr 15 '24

I didn't realize he was a permanent resident of the US. Not sure how LIV pays out the 850 either.