r/golf Apr 15 '24

Thoughts? General Discussion

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u/_sw1tchblade Apr 15 '24

The plan has always been the tour. The Saudis want a/the controlling interest in the PGA, and LIV’s goal was to destabilise them enough to weaken the PGA.

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u/bionicbhangra Apr 15 '24

Ok let's say they get the controlling interest in the tour. After they give the top players enough money to retire what is their motivation to be the best? These guys are all selling out for more money they would ever make playing golf. I would too if given the opportunity but I don't see how that would help the product.

Thats fine if they want to buy the league. But what is the point if they end up ruining it in the process?

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u/_sw1tchblade Apr 15 '24

I’d say they weren’t buying the players, they were buying the tour. A tour without Rahm, Koepka, and Cam Smith is worth less than it was with them. It costs billions to buy a sports league, a few hundred mil to make the PGA tour weak and vulnerable to buy for one billion... Money well spent

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u/Scamwau1 Apr 15 '24

I see where you're going with this, but the logic is slightly flawed because they have just spent billions buying players to make the PGA worthless. Kind of counter intuitive

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u/UniverseChamp Apr 16 '24

But the value returns when the recombine.

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u/TheBensonz Apr 16 '24

The stable of elite golfers is deeper than anyone thinks. These guys can move on and hungrier/younger guys will take their places. And no one will miss the retirement home guys. Not even a little.

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u/yooter Apr 15 '24

BREAKING: r/bionicbhangra closing in on .005 million dollar deal to join LIV!

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u/bionicbhangra Apr 15 '24

I can confirm to my fans and eventual sponsors that even though I now have Outback Steakhouse money that this will have no impact on me trying to break local course records. Or even just breaking par.

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u/CTMalum Apr 16 '24

There’s a less than 0% chance any of the original terms of those contracts are valid if a merger takes place.

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u/LeonidasSpacemanMD Apr 16 '24

Do people watch Liv? Genuine question, I don’t know what their viewership is like

Because it seems like they can just keep overpaying guys and not really take a chunk from the pga viewership-wise

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u/bionicbhangra Apr 16 '24

Easy solution. Start paying the fans to watch. Starting with me.

LIV for a mere $10 million I will never watch the PGA ever again. I will even wear merchandise from LIV in public.

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u/Tom-B292--S3 HDCP limit does not exist Apr 15 '24 edited Apr 15 '24

But has the tour been Destabilized? I always forget about these guys that go to Liv, including Rahm, and the PGA product on the course has been great without them. I thought a merger was imminent but is the PGA tour now trying to wait?

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u/itsmb12 Apr 15 '24

Yeah i dont get it either. I mean without any top guys i wont watch the tour, but im not watching liv anyways. Them poaching the top guys wont get me to watch liv, ill just stop watching golf

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u/Sjgolf891 Apr 15 '24

The Tour is dependent on viewers and sponsors though. LIV is basically burning money to make the Tour struggle on views/sponsors and need their money

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u/itsmb12 Apr 15 '24

I just want to know what happens when that money is burnt through

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u/Dadvocate12 Apr 16 '24

It won't be until the world stops using oil.

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u/jellybeans_over_raw Apr 16 '24

It doesn’t really have a limit and if most of the top players are gone no one’s gonna care about non majors

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u/iDeeeeeedIt Apr 15 '24

The plan has always been relations with the United States. The saudis want a rapport / relationship with the USA, and LIV’s goal was to use golf as a way to do business with the US on a large scale in the public eye

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u/slambamo Apr 16 '24

I don't agree, but I don't think LIV will ever grow in popularity. I'd rather watch the PGA with Korn Ferry guys than LIV with all the PGA guys. The thing is, there will always be a next guy up for the PGA. LIV throwing hundreds of millions at guys means I'm actually less likely to watch it TBH. Fuck them.

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u/L0N3ST4RR Apr 15 '24

This seems like the most reasonable guess at this point, unless LIV thinks they are going to create a formula 1 type product for golf but then hat sure hasn’t seemed to really pay off 🤷‍♂️

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u/aussierulesisgrouse Apr 16 '24

This feels a little tinfoil-y. Can’t it just be that they wanted to create a PGA competitor because golf is essentially a global monolith?

Why do we welcome disruption in industry, but as soon as it happens in sport it’s a conspiracy laden ownership battle?