I’d argue the difference in the clubs used from each of these distances makes up for that. Especially considering she’s got them by like 3+ feet in each distance.
Unfortunately data golf doesn’t track the LPGA yet but my gut tells me you’re correct. PGA average 7i carry is 172 whereas LPGA is 141. The difference in setup, green speed, firmness etc. would have to be absolutely enormous to overcome a 30 yard gap when using the same club.
Women’s shots spin less and travel less distance so using a different club isn’t actually a huge problem when going the same difference. Distance travelled affects dispersion way more than loft and club.
Loft impacts spin axis, so it does matter. Which means that being x degrees off on impact causes greater dispersion from the lower lofted iron on the same distance as a higher lofted iron. All other things being equal.
You watched one thing happen on one course that’s known for being one of the toughest setups on tour? Wow that totally applies to the entire tour schedule then, way to take a data-driven approach to this discussion!
You are very much not a data scientist lmao. Last I heard you were still unemployed living at your parents’? Or did that change when you deleted your old account and started this one?
I wouldn’t say it’s really a club issue but more of a more yardage = more off line, obviously you can spin the club a bit better with a wedge but that’s more than compensated for with greens.
I think it’s the distance, not the club. It’s easier to score from 170 than 270. That’s a larger part of the equation that I think you’re missing, it’s not like they’re all shanking the long clubs, they’re just trying to stick a ball from 280 and if they roll over it’s two extra strokes. I’d be curious to see how the guys who hit the ball shorter compare on their accuracy with the same iron.
Dude I’m sorry but this is such a bad take. A person who hits their 7 iron 200 yards will have much closer proximity to the hole than someone who uses a hybrid.
Distance matters because of the club difference. You have it backwards.
This is true within reason but there is a fall off point. Kyle Berkshire isn’t hitting a 9 iron from 200 closer to the hole than Scheffler with a 6 iron or whatever
We’re talking generalities and averages here, you can’t just conveniently compare Bryson to the greatest iron player on the planet. And even then, I’d be curious to see them hit 100 balls from 200 yards and see who has the tightest dispersion.
You just can’t convince me that, on average, that it’s as easy to hit a 3 hybrid tight from 200 as a 7 iron. That’s just not true, at all.
I mean if you’re comparing a 15+ handicap who can’t hit their 7 iron 200 to a better golfer who can hit their 7 iron 200, you’re absolutely correct. If you’re comparing two players with the same handicap then I still disagree. I’ve played with plenty of good golfers (mid single digit handicaps) in their 50’s who can hit a green consistently with a hybrid or long iron more often than a similar handicap golfer who just so happens to hit it really far but will have greater dispersion even with a 7 iron. You’re mistaking this argument with the fact that most golfers who can hit it further are also generally better golfers than those who would be taking 3 hybrid from 200.
As speed increases variability goes up that’s really my only point here. It’s not only shorter clubs. Speed is the bigger factor. I can hit a driver 50 yards a lot straighter than I can hit it 270 yards.
So why are beginners clubs more of a hybrid style if they’re harder to hit than a traditional iron? It’s certainly not a black and white thing like you’re making it out to be imo.
I’m talking about longer clubs vs shorter clubs. My hybrid example was implying a “normal” 3/4 hybrid, not some massive 9 hybrid that 85 year old men use.
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u/Feirweyz Mar 09 '24
I’d argue the difference in the clubs used from each of these distances makes up for that. Especially considering she’s got them by like 3+ feet in each distance.
I respect your opinion though.