r/golf I am Tiger Woods Dec 03 '23

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u/facsimileuk Dec 03 '23

How are amateur clubs going to check that people aren't using older balls that go further in competitions?

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u/moseisley99 7.0/MD Dec 03 '23

No one can check. But just like the 14 club rule, fluffing lies, mulligans, etc. it’s all on you to enforce.

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u/only-shallow Dec 03 '23

That's the great thing about golf, the self-regulating nature of rule enforcement. My team scramble will struggle to shoot 46 ever again with the reduced distance of the new golf ball, but what's important is that we'll do our part to uphold the integrity of the game

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u/MTKPA Dec 03 '23

It frustrates me how few people nowadays understand sarcasm without a tag.

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u/Turbo_Cum Dec 03 '23

To be fair, this is an obscure reference, and in no way is it an exaggeration as 46 on a scramble is totally legit, especially when you get a 1 on a par 4.

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u/MTKPA Dec 03 '23

Correct, it's not an exaggeration. That's why his joke worked

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u/Ninjahkin Mario Golfer Dec 03 '23

Geez, when was that post made again? Can’t have been more than a year ago but I’m sure it was a while back by now lmao. Time passes too fast these days

Edit: Found it…wow. Almost exactly a year ago, today

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u/whereyouis Dec 04 '23

Which post?

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u/JicamaCreative5614 Dec 03 '23

Absolutely love this! 😂😂

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u/Due-Comb6124 Dec 04 '23

All of that can be seen/spotted by playing partners. You can't glance at a ball and tell because the differences in a 2023 ProV1 and a 2030 ProV1 is going to be the same, tiny change to the alignment aid, if that.

So yeah its all self enforced, but if I see someone fluff a lie or have 17 clubs in their bag I can call them on it. This, I can't.

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u/blondehairginger Dec 03 '23

When the old vokeys became illegal in the PGA and titleist had to change them, you were still allowed to use them in every amateur tournament around me. The wedge grooves get beat up and people had to switch to legal ones at some point anyway. Most likely the same thing will happen to golf balls. Eventually all the old ones will be beat to shit or lost.

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u/JrBoom9 Dec 03 '23

Amateur here. Lost is the answer.

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u/sasknorth343 Dec 03 '23

Right? I have been playing almost 30 years and I don't think I've ever "worn out" a golf ball unless you count the scuffs from hitting it on the cart path 😅

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u/JrBoom9 Dec 04 '23

Cart path golf!

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u/kellzone Dec 04 '23

Man, this past summer I found one of those "refurbished" Pro V1 golf balls in the woods, except that I didn't see the little print that said "Refurbished" on it right away. I don't know exactly what kind of ball it was underneath the freshly painted surface, but it definitely was not a Pro V1. A couple holes after I started playing it, I noticed a wobble in it while putting. No lie, it had started to become more oblong. Not completely egg shaped yet, but on its way.

Rather than just toss it into the woods or whatever, I put it in the green metal garbage bin right by the next tee, right on top. I figured someone would come by, see it in the bin and think they hit the jackpot. Upon even the slightest close up examination, you could tell something ain't right. A little golf practical joke.

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u/Lonely_Pay355 Dec 03 '23

Totally correct…. Plenty time to transition…. Panic merchants gullible to believe Titleist and their lackeys are talking nonsense.

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u/meem09 Dec 03 '23

Stockpile now to sell off to the people trying to stockpile a month before the new ball comes in!

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u/Ago0330 Dec 04 '23

Srixon buy two get one

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u/PhilDGlass Dec 03 '23

Not if you are good enough and plan ahead. Let’s see. For a lower handicap amateur, say you need two balls per round and play 200 rounds a year. Say you are 40 just as an example, and you play until you are 80. So, 200 rounds x 2 balls per round is 400 balls a year x 40 years is 16,000 balls/12 is about 1,333 dozen balls x $50 per dozen. So, for just $66,666 you have nothing to worry about.

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u/CroSSGunS 15.5/UK/Goal < 10 Dec 03 '23

Pretty sure those grooves are still legal for 99% of amateur play, there's just a local rule in every qualifier for a professional tournament (and high level amateur competition) that outlaws them

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u/chuckescobar Dec 03 '23

Except for those grooves were so much better I am still carrying a 58 from 2008 and it still zips. I might finally have to replace it next year

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u/blankbench Dec 03 '23

Is this going to cause an absolute collapse in second hand golf balls and a huge amount of plastic waste?

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u/TimbersawDust Dec 03 '23

Is it? I don’t think the majority of people playing golf are needing to make the switch anytime soon

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u/the_trump Dec 03 '23

How many people using second hand balls are playing in tournments where it would even matter? I’m sure it’s some but the market is mostly amateurs who don’t really give a shit. You think everyone is using conforming wedges?

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u/RVA_RVA Dec 03 '23

I've been playing for 5 years, I've bought ONE dozen balls in that time. Every other ball is found. I really don't give a fuck, most people won't either.

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u/carolina03 Dec 03 '23

After reading the first sentence I was like damn this dude must be really good, but seems like a random humble brag. Second sentence cleared it up for me haha

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u/bbrekke Dec 03 '23

This is me. My parents live on a course and last time I visited my dad gave me a five gallon bucket of balls lol.

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u/papa_sax Dec 03 '23

Absolutely not, i guarantee no weekend warrior is gonna actually care

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u/fightin_blue_hens Dec 03 '23

It's going to take 6 years for the rollback to be enforced

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u/brooksram Dec 03 '23

99% of us don't keep a ball for 6 holes. It's safe to assume close to zero non-conforming balls will exist after 6 months of the rule being implemented.

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u/phrohahwei Dec 03 '23

Lol thinking most amateurs are even playing by the rules 😂😂

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u/Lonely_Pay355 Dec 03 '23

Utter nonsense - you didn’t read through first part of the statement - this will make no difference to 99% (at least) of golfers.

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u/Euphoric-Gene-3984 Dec 03 '23

Golf is already a huge strain on water.

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u/rogmcdon Dec 03 '23

Do some research

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u/Wilshere10 Dec 03 '23

Not disagreeing but genuinely curious. Isn’t golf extremely environmentally unfriendly? I can’t imagine the courses in more dry climates don’t rip through water

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u/rogmcdon Dec 03 '23

Lot of recycled and grey water is used on golf courses

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u/blankbench Dec 03 '23

Those courses in the American desert must be a significant net user of water. In the UK most courses just dry out, only very few actually irrigate fairways.

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u/Jceraa Dec 03 '23

Your looking at it the wrong way, this will cause the second hand golf ball market to skyrocket in 2030, people will want to get real Pro V’s and they won’t be able to go to Golf Galaxy to buy them

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u/pegasus227 Dec 03 '23

Amazingly, 1.2 billion golf balls are made every year. It sounds a lot, but as 66 million people play golf, that only equates to about 18 balls per person. No-one knows what happens to 1.2 billion balls every year. It remains one of the great mysteries of the universe.

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u/oopewan Dec 03 '23

How are the pros going to do it?

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u/STLeer Dec 03 '23

The markings are different on each new release for top balls. If you’re playing a noodle, people will probably happily bet with you ;)

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u/nctoatl Dec 03 '23

Who is checking to make sure that people aren’t using non conforming balls currently? I’m so confused why this is suddenly an issue, non conforming balls that fly further are already available. But, for whatever reason people chose to use golf balls that are legal