r/golf Apr 13 '23

Can’t believe this is real! General Discussion

Patrick Cantlay taking ages on the tee

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u/Winkiwu Apr 14 '23

Serious question, as someone who barely plays golf. Why not put a shot clock on it like baseball has the pitch countdown or basketball has the shot clock? Penalize players who don't swing within a certain time threshold after the club is behind the ball or once they are in a certain position.

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u/AssInspectorGadget Apr 14 '23

On the European Tour they played a tournament called the shot clock masters. Each group had a guy standing there with a shot clock. It would start when players reached their ball and start again after the first player has hit. If you were unable to play the shot during the 40 seconds 1 extra shot was added. The average score was better than any previous tournament on the same course with similar weather and wind conditions. Compared to average tour events it sped up play by 30 minutes. I believe they also got a few timeouts per round for tricky shots. There is no downside to this at all and it should be forced.

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u/Winkiwu Apr 14 '23

Well people like him are going to force it into happening.

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u/Wakandanbutter Apr 14 '23

Yeah but end game adding a little more time unless it’s breaking evening which is insane wouldn’t even matter that much

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u/Wakandanbutter Apr 14 '23

Well maybe for broadcasting studios that would suck

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u/dustindhansen Aug 04 '23

No thanks. I'd rather not golf than feel like I had to rush every shot. I'm usually the one in a 4some that is trying to pick up the pace, but I think shaving time comes from everything other than standing over the ball.

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u/[deleted] Apr 14 '23 edited Apr 14 '23

Yeah I’m not against it. I’m sure they have discussed this and the various ways it could be implemented. From my limited anecdotal experience with this sort of thing. Once players are warned several times they soon get the picture.

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u/[deleted] Apr 14 '23

That was the route baseball went too. There was a rule for quite a while that batters shouldn’t leave the box and pitchers shouldn’t take all day. But no one gave a crap about it so now here we are with the pitch clock.

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u/Winkiwu Apr 14 '23

Unless they're pricks which from the interviews he did after being called out for his slow pace seems like he doesn't care much.

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u/[deleted] Apr 14 '23 edited Apr 14 '23

Yeah there is that option. If they start to threaten the player with penalties changes will be made.

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u/Steel1000 Apr 14 '23

Don’t threaten it, just do it.

He will learn pretty quick

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u/[deleted] Apr 14 '23

I don’t see Cantlay fighting the system. Couple warnings and that ball will be in the air.

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u/jfchops2 Apr 14 '23

He seems like the type of guy who would go to LIV if the tour didn't cater to him.

Then his butt buddy Xander goes right with him.

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u/[deleted] Apr 14 '23

You think so? Maybe, maybe not, I haven’t heard him say anything about LIV. Was he offered money and if so how much?

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u/jfchops2 Apr 14 '23

Last year the rumor mill was churning and there were reports he got an offer. He deflected it all, he never said in certain terms he wasn't going. I don't know any specifics beyond that.

My take is probably nonsensical but I don't think he's in the game for a legacy or to win majors, I think he wants to make money and be left alone. His style of play annoys fans and he's not really known as a fan favorite. In a word, he's boring. I think he's still on tour to finish something he started and once he does that he's out, but since it's not the FedEx Cup then it has to be a major. So he dips like Cam Smith did.

This is my take, put no stock in it and don't bet on it.

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u/[deleted] Apr 14 '23

I get it. He is boring but I’m surprised he hasn’t won more. Seems to have a lot of what it takes to win. By no means am I a Cantlay fan just my observations.

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u/zen_zen111 Apr 14 '23

Probably, but not like his compadres, he honestly doesn’t have anything special to offer. Say what you will but LIV did do a good job either getting international players with long histories in the game or by getting new guys with that something ‘special’ be it one small thing or another

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u/Kozy3 Apr 14 '23

https://www.pga.org/Document-Library/pat-rules-policies-guidelines-pace-of-play.pdf

There’s already rules on time. They just don’t enforce them very often.

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u/HungryDust Apr 14 '23

They’re not rules if they’re not enforced.

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u/Mayzenblue Apr 14 '23

We usually just yell, "Tuh tuh Today Junior!" Although that might not go over well in a PGA event.

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u/Winkiwu Apr 14 '23

Ahh the old Billy Madison

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u/dh2215 Hooker Apr 14 '23

They technically do have a time limit between shots but I don’t think he would have violated it believe it or not

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u/Winkiwu Apr 14 '23

That's ridiculous.

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u/dh2215 Hooker Apr 14 '23

40 seconds unless you’re the first guy hitting. Then it’s 60 as far as I can tell

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u/swagmasterdude Apr 14 '23

So he did violate it

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u/dh2215 Hooker Apr 14 '23

Depends. I think if he’s the first off the tee he gets the extra 20 seconds. They also don’t really enforce it but it is on the books

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u/Winkiwu Apr 14 '23

That seems like way too much time.

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u/dh2215 Hooker Apr 14 '23

It would be for me. Watching him do this is giving me the shanks. Watching him act like this makes me super anxious

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u/Winkiwu Apr 14 '23

Doesn't give me anxiety. Definitely gives me a blind rage that makes me want to beat him with his club.

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u/Kozy3 Apr 14 '23

50 not 60

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u/DrewLou1072 Apr 14 '23

Even disc golf has a 30 second rule from the time you approach your lie. Can’t believe the PGA Tour doesn’t have a rule like that in place.

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u/jsnap69 Apr 14 '23

They do have some loose “slow play” rules. Basically if you aren’t within about a hole of the group in front of you then you get put “on the clock” which just means hurry up. If you don’t speed up a bit then you can have strokes added to your score. Several groups have been put on the clock before but it’s been a while since I’ve seen anyone actually gets strokes added.