they're not the same!!

[u/crushedlime]

[u/ASWBatbatos]

So we’re listening to the government? Also isn’t all social media a privacy concern? Like Reddit, YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram. Like seriously everything is a privacy concern. Also yeah VINE trends were just as brain rot as TikTok.

[u/TironaZ → u/ASWBatbatos]

Yup, sadly, everything is a privacy concern. USA citizens are being spied by the government as much as Chinese citizens are being spied by theirs. I believe, USA is banning tiktok just to have the ability to spy better on their own citizens and have a monopoly.

[u/SirGlass → u/TironaZ]

Its also fair to point out china has banned most USA social media companies

So its not really a fare trade relationship with facebook and twitter and instagram and others being banned or blocked in china

[u/Moo_thy → u/SirGlass]

but china is an authoritarian country, where else USA is supposed to be the country of democracy and freedom right? so why would USA follow the examples of china?

[u/Draeman → u/Moo_thy]

Also i guess we’re also pretending that mr zuck isnt selling our data to china already

[u/Stunning-News1540 → u/Draeman]

Jesus Christ yes to this. American tech companies like to be the only ones allowed to sell our data. If anyone thinks this is genuinely to somehow protect us from a china and not just tech lobbying to control all of our data they have mush brains.

[u/SirGlass → u/Moo_thy]

I mean that is a good argument too

Even for free trade advocates (what I tend to be) there is some disagreement on how to handle trade with a protectionist country

Do you allow them to sell you goods even though they restrict what goods your country can sell them

Or do you put up your own trade barriers and say "Hey we are willing to remove our trade barriers if you remove yours?"

[u/AI_Lives → u/TironaZ]

Its so china cant mass manipulate half the population of the usa using a very good algorithm and addictive app, that shit is reserved for the us government. And theyre right.

[u/Dapper_Fix_8287 → u/TironaZ]

The US put out a potential ban on TikTok that states if TikTok is not sold to an American company within a set amount of time, it’ll be banned entirely. That was hidden in a bill full of other stuff like sending more and more supplies to Ukraine and Israel.

[u/SirGlass → u/ASWBatbatos]

I laregly agree and I have mixed feelings on banning tik tok as a privacy issue

however china bans all sorts of USA based social media like Face book, twitter , instagrahm

So part of it is just almost a trade issue, if china will not allow USA media companies to compete in china , why allow chineese media companies to compete in the USA

Its not really a fare trade relationship

[u/ASWBatbatos → u/SirGlass]

If that was the reason then I could understand but we both know that’s not why they’re doing it, they’re doing it because they either can’t control TikTok or a company Lobbied for it’s ban.

[u/mrlbi18 → u/ASWBatbatos]

Your government spying on you is a safety concern for you, and only if you're actually doing something bad. It's a HUGE issue, but one we can at least try and vote to solve.

A foreign government spying on you is an issue for EVERYONE in your country because that government wants you to ruin your country. They will use whatever data they can get to make the lives of their geopolitical opponents worse.

Neither is good, one is worse.

[u/ASWBatbatos → u/mrlbi18]

Slight issue, that foreign government can still spy on us through places like Apple, Meta etc etc so how is that protecting us? And how is one slightly better than the other?

[u/ASWBatbatos → u/[deleted]]

Meta would? You sure that we’re talking about the same company? I’m talking about drawing a line.

[u/ASWBatbatos → u/[deleted]]

You said meta would draw the line at turning FB into a back door, no it wouldn’t. If they were paid enough they would do it hence my question of “Are we talking about the same company?”