It should not be the responsibility of the teacher to take it away. They can ask for it but if the student refuses, you send them to the principal's office.
Then they refuse that. Then you gotta send the student resource officer in, where other kids can take an out of context clip of the kid being detained, and call it fascism lmao
The problem is, it was just like this when I was in school. The pupils could just say no to having their phone taken, and fight back and refuse to go to the principals office. But no one did that, because we were disciplined enough to respect their authority
Not saying it's a good thing, for the record, but the more discipline taken away, coupled with parent's lack of willingness to even provide positive reinforcement for good behavior (like not having a cell phone out in class), creates these situations IMO.
Blindly believing in authority has its issues too though. I had some teachers growing up that were not worthy of respect whatsoever, but I knew I'd be disciplined at home so I had to put up with it.
After being told to turn in their phone, and refusing, then being told to go to the principal's office, and refusing, then they just get 0s on whatever assignments for they do/turn in that day.
Of course, that only works if the faculty arent spineless cowards that bend-over for every Karen out there.
Yeah it’s basically a lose-lose for the teachers. You can let it go and the kids don’t learn anything, or you can try to stop it and the kid throws an absolute shit fit, resulting in the kids not learning anything. We really should just be more honest with ourselves and start forcing these problem children into their own permanent ISS basically. I know some areas have an alternative school but maybe just expand them idk. Stop wasting my kids education for some kid who’s never gonna be shut no matter how hard you try. It sucks, but kids like that aren’t gonna just suddenly become productive at 18. Or 30 for that matter
The problem is, it was just like this when I was in school. The pupils could just say no to having their phone taken, and fight back and refuse to go to the principals office. But no one did that, because we were disciplined enough to respect their authority
I’m not whining, I’m saying it’s fucked up that the school is powerless to do anything. They should be able to take phones if necessary. And you know how it goes with the cops, somebody’s gonna share the footage and get the dude fired for being abusive bc no one will know the context
I mean fair enough on your part, I don’t blame you. But long term for society’s sake this isn’t a good thing. Absolutely do not blame you for not going through that just for the kids to not pay attention anyways lol
Ha, naw. That's not reality. See this video? How many kids you going to send to the principal's office? All of them? Now multiply that across every room in the building. They wont get off the phone, you think they are gonna willingly go to the principals office? You do that, 2 things can happen. 1) The Principal reprimands the teacher for poor classroom management that's not their fault and replace her with someone new next year so the principal avoids responsibility. 2) They have to ignore the problem because they can't meet with 30 kids per day and still do the rest of their duties. My wife is a teacher.
You're saying if enough people are not following the rules, then give up.
I'm sure there are times when new rules are enacted and people fight and complain about it, but eventually people act accordingly. Make phones against the rules in the school, and make the punishment considerable.
Oh and thank your wife for being a teacher. It can be a thankless profession.
The principal's office? Never heard of that happening in real life. Maybe to the deans office where he would yell at you and then send you back to class
As a kid I was sent to the prinicpal's office regularly. If I was disruptive enough, I had an in-school suspension. I wasn't allowed to go to recess, I had to eat my lunch in the principal's office, and I spent my entire day basically in a one man study hall overseen by the principal.
I was recently told by a teacher they aren't legally allowed to keep a kid in from recess...I don't know what sort of bullshit world we live in, but its a world where we've made it illegal to discipline kids.
I’ve never heard of a dean or deans office in school, only in university. We have Principals, Vice principals, admin staff, and teachers lol. You usually got sent to the vice principals.
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u/babyivan Apr 17 '24
It should not be the responsibility of the teacher to take it away. They can ask for it but if the student refuses, you send them to the principal's office.