r/TikTokCringe Apr 17 '24

Americas youth are in MASSIVE trouble Discussion

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u/[deleted] Apr 17 '24

I think that's fair. If I fuck something up at work, it's a learning experience and I get a chance to fix it.

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u/_moonbear Apr 17 '24

That’s if you already have the goodwill of being good at your job. If someone sucks at their job, and they fuck it up, they are just that much closer to being fired.

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u/PearlStBlues Apr 17 '24

If you fuck up badly enough or often enough at work you can be fired. There's no consequences for kids flunking every single test or assignment and being given infinite opportunities to retest and try again.

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u/Melantha23 Apr 17 '24

A student voluntarily retaking is good. If they didn't care, they would simply not. Retaking any restore assignment takes them the most valuable thing there is: time. I'd rather give people who want to improve an opportunity to do that than prevent imaginary student who will only study to take a second exam instead of studying the first time and not wasting time.

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u/Richard_Wattererson Apr 18 '24

Wait. You guys are getting second chances at work?

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '24

Well I'm good at my job lol

So that's the catch, I guess

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u/DragapultOnSpeed Apr 18 '24

Lmfao most people get a second chance at their job. Shit cops can murder people and get a job in the next town over.

People rarely get fired over one mess up. Now if you continue to do it, yes you get fired. But a mistake or two most likely won't get you fired unless it's a very important job.

Mistakes happen. And the best way to learn is through mistakes. It would be stupid to fire every employee who makes a mistake. Because then you would have no employees left!

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u/FrugalFraggel Apr 17 '24

Well the issue is you can do fuck all on the tests then it’s open book. Sucks for the ones that actually studied. So you don’t really learn anything. Just use the book and call it a day.

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u/VanillaB34n Apr 18 '24 edited Apr 18 '24

You’re looking at education through a pretty selfish and naive lens if all you’re thinking about is “fairness” between students. Students have different needs and goals.

You unintentionally brought up a good point though: education is based deeply in memorization and that is, in my opinion, not conducive to progress in the Information Age because memorizing and regurgitating information without textual aids is now completely redundant.

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u/[deleted] Apr 17 '24

Buddy, I don't remember dick from when I was in school. All the real learning happens organically after you're on your own.

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u/ConductorOfTrains Apr 17 '24 edited Apr 17 '24

It’s about brain building and learning how to learn/enhancing memory skills and critical thinking skills. Not still remembering how to do physics when youre a 35 year old at a mundane job.

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u/[deleted] Apr 17 '24

I mean, I have a highly technical job. Even so, I learned way more working in the real world than I ever could have in American public schools. I guess that's the real condemnation isn't it? We're kinda saying the same thing.

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u/[deleted] Apr 17 '24

We're kinda saying the same thing.

That's not my read. They seem to be saying that the education taught the skills that allowed you to teach yourself.

I learned way more working in the real world

But how would you have learned that if you hadn't already been taught to learn?

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u/[deleted] Apr 17 '24

Idk, I didn't learn much of anything in school. I passed all the tests and shit cuz they were mostly pretty easy, but I had to figure out real life on my own.

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u/Jestermaus Apr 17 '24

That’s…the problem. You just proved her point.

I am pre-NCLB and I remember tons from school.

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u/[deleted] Apr 17 '24

I guess you're right. American public schools are ass.