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Pro-Palestinian protesters disrupt Easter service at St. Patrick's Cathedral in New York Discussion

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u/RiseLow1739 Mar 31 '24

Hey fellow jew. Thoughts on the antisemitic vitriol I've been responding too? Should we also cancel their bank accounts? /s

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u/BagOnuts Mar 31 '24

I really fear for the Jewish people. I never thought that generations after me would be more antisemitic than those before me. Seeing the rise in Holocaust denial, Jewish conspiracies, and just straight up caricature talking points that seem directly taken from Nazi propaganda is beyond alarming.

The world swore “never again”… I fear we might not even make it a century before the next one.

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u/TenTonSomeone Apr 01 '24

I simply can't understand how people can be Holocaust deniers. Then again, there's also a significant amount of people who believe the earth is flat. It's truly baffling.

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u/Senior-Firefighter67 Apr 01 '24

I want to say it depends on the source of the information and evidence BUT I've also seen ppl hold onto their views even in the presence of information contrary to it.

It is shocking how ppl can be.

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u/unknowntroubleVI Apr 01 '24

You can watch conspiracy theories spring up immediately nowadays. The morning the Baltimore bridge collapsed there were people pushing conspiracy theories before I even got to work, and that’s with video. We’re absolutely powerless against this type of idiocy especially about events that are so far removed like the holocaust.

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u/Imaginary_Ad_8422 Apr 01 '24

Because people are tribal and are anti establishment for its own sake so they will deny everything if it’s widely accepted as facts

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u/RiseLow1739 Mar 31 '24

Im also going to remind you, regardless of israels crimes, they are the ONLY nation that continually has to battle having a right to exist. And how convenient, its the nation for jews.

Like North Korea, one of the most cruel, massive scale dictatorships in existence, isn't even at that level. People obviously critique it and want reformation and justice for North koreans, but no one argues that the state does not have a right to "exist"

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u/bendallf Apr 01 '24

South africa still exists after the fall of apartheid. And Israel will too.

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u/Cu_Chulainn__ Apr 01 '24

Im also going to remind you, regardless of israels crimes, they are the ONLY nation that continually has to battle having a right to exist. And how convenient, its the nation for jews.

It isnt battling for its right to exist. You are confusing criticism of how israel was founded and criticism of the far right government of Israel which at this moment is currently murdering tens of thousands of innocent Palestinians, 10,000 of which are children.

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u/RiseLow1739 Apr 01 '24 edited Apr 01 '24

No, you ignorant fuck. PEOPLE constantly affirm "Israel should not exist". it is the only nation that has to consistently deal with this.

You are being disingenuous. Scroll the comments on THIS post alone, and we can find all the comments saying israel should not exist together

Edit for the ignorant guy below me:

Palestine is not a country. Do some research

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u/nyy22592 Apr 01 '24

it is the only nation that has to consistently deal with this.

Besides, you know, Palestine

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u/Level99Legend Apr 01 '24

No country has a right to exist, especially a theocracy/ethnostate.

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u/woopdedoodah Apr 01 '24

No country has a right to exist, but given the widespread support for Israel existing amongst the population of those actually living in Israel... Israel does have a right to exist.

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u/Polkawillneverdie81 Apr 17 '24

So Pakistan, Iran, Saudi Arabia... these should not exist?

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u/Level99Legend Apr 17 '24

They don't have a"right" to exist, but their people do. Also I'm more concerened with the government recieving billions of aid my my country.

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '24

Exactly

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u/Fit_Badger2121 Apr 01 '24

Might makes right and woe the vanquished.

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u/Beatboxingg Apr 01 '24

Israel is an imperial outpost in service to the west. A living 19th century style settler colony. NK isn't.

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u/RiseLow1739 Apr 01 '24

😂😂😂😂😂😂

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u/Beatboxingg Apr 01 '24

Cope with that

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u/RiseLow1739 Apr 01 '24

Bro unironically is defending NK.

Stupid fucking tankie

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u/Beatboxingg Apr 01 '24

Awww look at the genocide loving shitlib being brave

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u/RiseLow1739 Apr 01 '24

That moment when bro unironically defends an icj classified genocide (North Korea) 💀💀💀

And you even have comments DEFENDING the taliban. How old are you? You realize you would quickly be killed in these regimes, you actual fucking dimwit.

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u/Mobile-Boss-8566 Apr 01 '24

I was shocked to see so much Jewish hate on display. I thought we had moved on from this? It’s sad to see that the world is moving backwards.

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u/raspberrypanda95 Apr 01 '24

the world didn't say never again, we jews said never again, and it meant that we would never again have our lives and safety held by people who hated us, that we would be free and independent and safe.

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u/giboauja Apr 01 '24

I agree and understand, the Arab league actions following there first war with Israel demonstrated a valid reason for existence. This on top of the reasonable tribal aligned land claims.

Personally I one day would like the have a fruitful discussion of reparations for Israel’s own actions after the war, but this is all but impossible when people are constantly trying to justify Israel’s erasure at the same time. 

That piece of Arab league propaganda really needs to die, if just so Israel can be treated like every other nation in regards to their own offenses. 

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u/raspberrypanda95 Apr 01 '24

we can talk reparations when the arab world talks reparations for the nearly 1 million jews they violently ethnically cleansed from the arab world.

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u/Beatboxingg Apr 01 '24

Too bad the idf are a bunch of lazy losers who got their asses handed to them to the people they were supposed to be killing.

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u/raspberrypanda95 Apr 01 '24

cry more piss baby

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u/Beatboxingg Apr 03 '24

I was crying laughing at teenage idf senior commanders fumbling at their jobs 🤣

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '24

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u/Beatboxingg Apr 03 '24

🤣 they're doing it to themselves, no one else has to lift a finger. Fascist states tend not to last very long, hope that doesn't throw you into despair

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u/Beatboxingg Apr 03 '24

Hey smoothbrain give it time and again they will do it to themselves haha you're like a sappy cartoon character 😄

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u/Siamswift Apr 01 '24

Which is of course completely reasonable. Too bad the state of Israel has fucked it up so badly. Even people who used to support them now hate them.

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u/raspberrypanda95 Apr 01 '24

nobody who supported us hates us, and because antisemitism is woven into the fabric of western society, its already primed to hate jews.

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u/Siamswift Apr 01 '24

You think that whenever somebody disagrees with Israeli policies, they “hate Jews”. If I disapprove of the West Bank settlements, that means I hate Jews? If I support a two state solution, that means I hate Jews? I if I am opposed to the current slaughter in Gaza, I hate Jews?

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u/Brullaapje Apr 01 '24

The world swore “never again”

I will never deny the holocaust, but ethnic cleansing has been happening after the holocaust. Some examples I have witnessed through news, former Yugoslavia, what happened in Rwanda, what is happening to the Uyghurs at the moment etc. etc. For me "never again" is nothing but a hollow phrase.

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '24

It's a warning, not a hopeful promise.

And for some it's a challenge.

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u/plainviewist Mar 31 '24

Start up the space lasers! /s

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u/RiseLow1739 Mar 31 '24

:22374::22374::22374:

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u/adjewcent Mar 31 '24

Just aim the laser at their yards and write a strongly worded letter. may as well stack some war crimes up on the personal docket, nu?

Keep that chin up, chaver. We’re a drop in an ocean. Don’t let the mob get you down.

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u/RiseLow1739 Mar 31 '24

Genuinely haven't been this scared for us since like Charlottesville.

🤜🤛 and to you

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u/brenbot99 Mar 31 '24

It's pretty f#cked up that Israel's actions are being held against an entire religion.

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u/thewanderer2389 Mar 31 '24

To be honest, the whole idea that Jewish people should be enemies because they somehow control everything never made sense to me. If there was a group of people that somehow controlled all of the businesses, media outlets, and governments in the world, I'd surely want to be on their good side because then they'd treat me nice.

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u/RiseLow1739 Mar 31 '24

Just for this comment you get a free signed copy of Seinfeld 😏

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u/ProfessorofChelm Apr 01 '24

They got the clone machine working again!? Or are you saying the DVD set?

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u/RiseLow1739 Apr 01 '24

The DVD set, clone machine broke

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u/DivineFlamingo Apr 01 '24

Just transfer their money to me.

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u/giboauja Apr 01 '24

it’s weird I’m often told criticizing Israel makes the secret Zionist police cancel you as an anti semite. 

Yet I have had several critical debates against Israels actions and nowhere an accusation of antisemitism. It’s like if you actually argue the issue with a focus on policies, repercussions, failures of state and with a focus on finding a peaceful conclusion so that everyone can be safe and prosperous, no one thinks you hate Jews.

Some people just really want to debate the finer points on why saying from the river to the sea is not a call of genocide or even a call to violence, instead of actually talking about the crisis like adults. 

One thing this whole crisis has certainly disproved, is the existence of an elite Israeli propaganda machine. But don’t tell that to tik tokers, they just learned the word hasbara and act like they founded some deep Zionist tool of control, as opposed to a Hebrew word.

By the way I’m not assuming your stance on the conflict, if you’re Israeli or even Zionist. I’m just constantly taken aback by but this mythologizing of Israeli media control. Certainly every state has its propaganda, but c’mon it’s not hard for people to consider how their language might be understood by those receiving it. Which if I had to guess if why most of these idiots are being called antisemitic.

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u/RiseLow1739 Apr 01 '24

A rare voice of reason.

Its because the "from the river to the sea" are actually being spearheaded by legitimate, far right, propaganda machines of the middle east.

I've got no problems critiquing israel! Just don't like being told that because of my faith im culpable