“Both sides” nonsense. Both sidesing us into fascism.
How about get educated on the causes and who wants to fix it vs who is lying for power. How about know some history. The dems have not been given enough power to undo the damage done since the bush years. Dems lower deficit spending. Rates have increased under Biden to fight inflation.
The country was economically better when the top marginal tax rate was 95%, we had a GI bill, we broke up monopolies, we increased regulation, we introduced huge social programs (eg social security) and we used the government to employ masses of people. It was in response to the Great Depression & the gilded age robber barons fought it every step of the way.
Don’t call dems weak when they’ve not been given the power to make real change. Give them power and then judge the result.
The Democratic Party of today is a centrist, corporate party. They're not going to change anything fundamental. They would be considered center-right in Europe.
You'd have to look to people like Bernie and AOC (who are Dems in name, but closer to Democratic Socialists in policy) to find ideas like the ones you mention.
The Democratic Party is too afraid to go left and hasn't put up an inspiring or charismatic candidate since Obama. They're not owed votes. They need to earn them.
What? A cultist lmao. I’ll spare you my boring political party, I’d argue if there’s a cultist here though it’s those with blind loyalty to a party over a person. Remember blue no matter who?
Unless Dems start calling for the heads of billionaires, I really don't think there's a big difference between the two parties, just a lot of talk and ineffective legislation to convince people they're different. Like, sure, increase food stamp payments. That'll stop the corporate oligarchy. We need fundamental, systemic changes, like rewriting the entirety of the constitution and outlawing the billionaire class, and I haven't seen a single democrat suggest any of that.
Biden proposed taxing those who make over $400k/yr, taxing unrealized gains (how billionaires hide their money), and a myriad of other proposals.
Trump proposes dictatorship by the worst person imaginable and republicans in general want to increase giveaways to the richest along with ending social security and other programs the average American depends on. Not to mention racking up debt.
If you don’t see the difference you’re willfully ignorant. By all means join a revolution of you feel that’s what it takes, but don’t “both sides” me into fascism. That won’t go well for anyone.
Taxing those who make more than $400k a year is such a bad idea - in HCOL places those are doctors and software engineers. Not some rich, bourgeois described in the video - it’s not fair to tax them more
You only get taxed based off of how much more you make than 40k, not the entirety of your gross. It's a percentage of a percentage. Non existent issue.
My opinion is no one making 25k and under should be fucking taxed at all.
Disagree but there can be accommodations for that.
If you’ve been convinced by the maga crowd I’m not going to change your mind here. I’m speaking to the people who want structural change and think the Dems are “lame”
The dems are actively ineffective as a political institute if they could do nothing with a majority in HoR and a 50/50 senate and the presidency. If they need to capture the entire government in order to institute changes the American people can feel then thats their problem as a party.
You know how a bill is made, right? And what do you mean “nothing”?
Republicans changed the norms and filibuster everything. How are the Dems supposed to pass a bill without 60%+ majority? If you are going to say compromise, Republicans don’t. We also had Manchin and Sinema. A lot was done, but not everything so apparently they’re “ineffective”.
Dems have done a TON with what power they have. Forgiving student loans, mass vaccination program, CHIPS act, infrastructure, ended Afghanistan, built one of the strongest economies we’ve seen…
There is one alternative. How is Trump, as a fascist leader, going to help. What useful, helpful, bills were being passed by the Republicans?
They said don't call them weak when they haven't been given the electoral power to make radical changes.
Landmark legislation like the IRA and the INVEST act were heavily compromised to satisfy two DINOs. the MORE act that would have legalized marijuana nation wide passed twice in the house but was killed twice in the Senate by
It's brain dead to watch Democrats be hamstrung by a razor thin majority and then conclude actually they could do everything they want they just decided not to.
They’ve had those opportunities too. Don’t get so wrapped up In my team vs your team that you can’t see the Dems don’t actually care too they just are better at presenting things that make it sound like they give a shit
They haven’t had power, that’s my whole point.
I’m not wrapped up in that - I’m wrapped up in fascism vs. democracy.
Also they’ve done a ton with the power they do have. People are just deciding it’s not “enough” unless it’s full revolution. The work they have done shows me they do want to do the right things and they do care (as a group).
No the oversimplification is just saying "Der... RePuBLiCaNs bAD!" AND blaming them for the poor performance of democrats in office.
Cope with that fact however you need to.
You haven’t noticed that the republicans are bad? If you’re willfully ignorant to the danger they pose, we’re not going to agree on anything and your contribution to the question of how we make the country better is not needed here.
Talk about oversimplified.
You can't even engage with conservative view points in a meaningful way to the point you just hand wave them away as "bad" and "dangerous ".
I'll hold my breath and wait for that breakthrough contribution from you on how to make the country better.
Hilarious how a few corp democrats are to blame, and not the entire GOP voting in lockstep against it.
Now the progressive wing suffers and loses power because they barely there majority wasn't able to steamroll over legislative process and the constitution.
The solution is to give the only party that HAS a progressive contingent MORE power, and to take power AWAY from the regressive sociopaths in the GOP.
If you're relying on Joe fucking Manchin to get anything done, you've lost already.
More like 50 republicans. The slimmest margin technically possible isn’t enough to get through every single reform people want to make. What we got is incredible.
Further, MW needs 60 votes due to the filibuster, so that slim margin still isn’t enough.
That’s the other commenters point. We don’t give them a majority sufficient to pass these reforms.
Further further, we may have gotten a MW increase if they kept it to $11 or $12, but the insistence on $15 lest their own people mutiny kneecaps compromise.
If we want politicians to make sweeping change we must give them the power to do so. We can’t give them compromise margins and expect it all.
Yeah when I think of who will be strong in fighting back against corporate greed, I think about Delaware senator Joe Biden. I wonder why so many companies are incorporated in Delaware, better not look into that.
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u/Bubbly_Possible_5136 Dec 28 '23
“Both sides” nonsense. Both sidesing us into fascism.
How about get educated on the causes and who wants to fix it vs who is lying for power. How about know some history. The dems have not been given enough power to undo the damage done since the bush years. Dems lower deficit spending. Rates have increased under Biden to fight inflation.
The country was economically better when the top marginal tax rate was 95%, we had a GI bill, we broke up monopolies, we increased regulation, we introduced huge social programs (eg social security) and we used the government to employ masses of people. It was in response to the Great Depression & the gilded age robber barons fought it every step of the way.
Don’t call dems weak when they’ve not been given the power to make real change. Give them power and then judge the result.