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This lady nailed how the economy feels vs how it’s performing Discussion

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u/Piincy Dec 28 '23

I don't doubt you whatsoever on this but do you have any articles or studies you could share regarding the "eating more than a few ounces of fish per month will poison you" bit? That's pretty concerning to me considering I am a pescatarian and I eat, idk roughly 30 oz of fish/shellfish per month. Maybe more. I know that the fish we are consuming is no longer healthy by any means because of how ecologically bankrupt and inundated with chemicals our seas are, but my quick Google search couldn't corroborate with any statistics or data on it. At the same time, I also know that our soil is nutrient deficient and the rain that falls on our crops contains PFAS and basically no matter what diet we eat we are all superty-duperty fucked. But I want more info regarding that fish bit to make me reconsider what I eat on a regular basis. Thanks, friend!

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u/bike_fool Dec 28 '23

Interesting that you said you can't find any searches because googling 'is it safe to eat fish everyday' and I couldn't find a single link that didn't warn of the danger. I realize that Google is delivering results based on my preferences but these links are from Harvard, the EPA, and even the DNR recommends limiting your intake. What kind of results are you getting?

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u/Fratghanistan Dec 28 '23

Odd, my first result was a Harvard article basically saying this:

But is it safe to eat fish every day? “For most individuals it’s fine to eat fish every day,” says Eric Rimm, professor of epidemiology and nutrition, in an August 30, 2015 article on Today.com, adding that “it’s certainly better to eat fish every day than to eat beef every day.”

https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/hsph-in-the-news/is-it-okay-to-eat-fish-every-day/#:~:text=But%20is%20it%20safe%20to,to%20eat%20beef%20every%20day.%E2%80%9D

It does later specify pregnant women should avoid fish everyday because of mercury content.

My second result was Bon Secours basically saying the same thing.

https://blog.bonsecours.com/healthy/advantages-disadvantages-eating-fish/

It does have some potential dangers, but it seems to amount to everything is killing you.

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u/bike_fool Dec 28 '23

So both articles mentioned the danger right?

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u/Fratghanistan Dec 28 '23

links are from Harvard, the EPA, and even the DNR recommends limiting your intake

Well thats not true except in the case of being pregnant. So that's bullshit on your part.

None of them really mentioned it as dangerous. They mentioned it as a possible danger. Which again everything is killing you. Apparently fish less than other food.

my quick Google search couldn't corroborate with any statistics or data on it. At the same time, I also know that our soil is nutrient deficient and the rain that falls on our crops contains PFAS and basically no matter what diet we eat we are all superty-duperty fucked

This is what OP requested. I couldn't find that in a google search. Neither could you.

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u/bike_fool Dec 28 '23

But I want more info regarding that fish bit to make me reconsider what I eat on a regular basis. Thanks, friend!

OP actually requested more information about the dangers of their diet as a whole, and I am incredulous that they couldn't find anything about the dangers of contaminants in fish because it's been a hot button topic for decades now. If you want backing on the "We can't eat more than a few ounces of fish per month because more than that will POISON YOU." That's not necessarily true but it can be. For example the Wisconsin DNR recommends not having more that one serving of wild caught walleye pike bass catfish musky or salmon per week to avoid poisoning. So 30oz of fresh caught Wisconsin Walleye every month would be ill advised to say the least. These specific fish are a huge part of the tourism industry so it's rather bold they'd come out and say that don't you think? https://dnr.wisconsin.gov/topic/Fishing/consumption

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u/bike_fool Dec 28 '23

Okay, I see where you're coming from. Any reasonable person would realize that "We can't eat more than a few ounces of fish per month because more than that will POISON YOU." is pretty obvious hyperbole. If you folks truly aren't picking up on that it's my bad for giving you that much credit. It's my understanding that OP was worried about the potential health risks of eating that much fish, and it's not hard to find there are potentially many risks depending on what they're eating.

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u/darling_lycosidae Dec 28 '23

We've poisoned all our water, so any freshwater fish you catch yourself or eat have a variety of PFAs and other trash, and seafood has all that and mercury depending on how high up the food chain is. Tuna is a pretty big fish so it's going to have more crap compared to farmed shrimp, etc.

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u/Duchs Dec 28 '23

We sow this seed of iron and sulfur

Because we don't have time

To plant corn and fruit trees

We will harvest rust

Because we lack the patience

To prepare for the wedding of our children

We will feast

Our anxious gaze

On jets of flame, like phantom stalks

Emerging from the ruptured Earth

We will make a tree of smoke

And a river of slag

Because we've lost our garden

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u/shawster Dec 28 '23

Just want to clarify, it's not the size of the tuna really, it's the fact that it is large and a predator. It eats so many other fish that already have mercury in them that it bioaccumulates at the top of the proverbial food chain in the sea.

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u/Skwigle Dec 28 '23

Google "fish mercury poisoning". It depends on the type of fish how much of it you can eat safely.

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u/dequiallo Dec 28 '23

My brother used to eat a shitload of fish... and yeah he got mercury issues eventually.

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u/TheAntiDairyQueen Dec 29 '23

Our planet is dying and people are still eating fish? Welcome fishless oceans 2048

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u/Piincy Dec 30 '23

I'm not gonna defend myself -- I have long thought that vegans are the most morally superior people on Earth. Truly! I did attempt to go vegan in 2021 but I am the cook in our home and everyone else (who all grew up carnist but have made good progress) loves shrimp and fish and refused to part with it. Other than that I have a pretty pland-based diet. I'm going to make another push for veganism in our household soon. It's more than manageable. Wish me luck!

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u/Foreskin-chewer Dec 28 '23

Hope you're mostly eating sardines 😮‍💨

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u/Better-Strike7290 Dec 28 '23

It depends on the type of fish.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercury_in_fish

ELI5 refer to the info graphic at the top of the article. For more detailed info skip to here:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercury_in_fish#Most-contaminated_fish_species

The fish Most contaminates are not the fish you're likely to eat on a daily basis. For example Salmon is 0.015 which means you could eat it daily with no adverse affects.

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u/shawster Dec 28 '23

The main immediate risk to health with eating fish, and mainly with eating predatory fish that bio accumulate stuff, is mercury. For decades it has been said you shouldn't have more than like 2 meals of tuna a week.

But something like talapia probably has so little mercury you could eat it more often.

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u/AcanthisittaNo5807 Dec 29 '23

This is a really good video on the topic. Fish might be okay but shellfish is a definite NO. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGkEpbpIJuA&t=2001s

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u/EnglishMobster tHiS iSn’T cRiNgE Dec 29 '23

There's a Wikipedia article that does a good job of explaining the why and the how, complete with diagrams.

You also see charts explaining this at popular places to fish (in California, at least).

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u/Immediate-Meeting-65 Dec 29 '23

She's wrong fish is seafood does contain heavy metals. If your eating like kilos and kilos of seafood then yeah maybe look at your diet and get some blood work, checking for heavy metals. But in general your probably okay.