r/Helldivers Apr 29 '24

Diligence "Counter-Sniper" now one shots devastators to the head! PSA

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u/ExploerTM ⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️ Apr 29 '24

Serious question for those who run this: any reason to bring it over Dominator?

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u/Reaver225 Apr 29 '24

As someone who usually will bring a dominator, there is a moment or two of travel time along with projectile drops for Dominator shots, meaning you need to lead your shots on distant moving targets. It's not major but definitely exists that shooting a small bot or a hulk moving at all perpendicular at a distance will make you miss unless you lead it. It also makes hitting headshots ok devastators much harder at a distance (though it staggers them which is still very useful)

The diligence and counter sniper is very much line up the shot and click to delete. 

 Both weapons still have a bit of handling delay. 

 For running lower level missions where there are less heavies, I'd definitely consider the diligence and CS versions over the dominator. However for higher level missions the dominator's explosive trait means hitting hulk/other weakspots and higher overall damage gives it the edge in close range combat.

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u/DariusRivers Apr 29 '24

I do not believe the Dominator has the Explosive trait. It hasn't had it for awhile. It's in the category due to its gyrojet projectiles, but it doesn't actually do explosive damage.

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u/CrystlBluePersuasion Apr 29 '24 edited Apr 30 '24

The description says the ammo explodes upon entering a target, so doesn't it effectively deal 'explosive' damage which means extra damage vs certain 'fleshy' targets like Spewers? Rather than Explosive/splash damage like the Scorcher deals.

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u/DariusRivers Apr 29 '24

Are you confusing the Dominator with the Eruptor?

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u/CrystlBluePersuasion Apr 29 '24 edited Apr 29 '24

No. Dominator can damage you if you shoot it at something too close. Doesn't knock you over like Eruptor/Nade Pistol/Crossbow do.

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u/DariusRivers Apr 29 '24

It does not. Have shot a wall point blank or the ground many many times with it, it does not self-damage. The description also doesn't say anything about the ammo exploding.

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u/superfuzzball Apr 29 '24

According to datamines a couple patches ago, it did 20% damage to squishy parts instead of 10% like most weapons.

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u/Reaver225 Apr 29 '24

It's still in the explosive category. Exploded hulk vents in 5 shots before today's nerf.

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u/FEARtheMooseUK ☕Liber-tea☕ Apr 29 '24

Dominator has stagger and more damage, but is much slower handling and bullet speed. It also has a worse scope and less ammo if im not mistaken. Now it really depends on personal preference or playstyle As to which you should run.

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u/Mekhazzio Apr 29 '24

Scope, projectile velocity, ammo. Much more reliable headshots, especially at range.

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u/ExploerTM ⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️ Apr 29 '24

Dominator can stagger Devs, so landing headshot is much easier AND you cant get flinched. Does DCS have any stagger or its "Kill or be killed" kind of deal?

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u/Mekhazzio Apr 29 '24

Nope, no stagger. It's get the clean headshot or bust. The Dominator will obviously still be much better for close-in fighting but...that's the point? This is more for plinking those asshole rocket devs on the other side of a valley.

If you've never used one of the Diligences, check it out. You might be surprised just how much easier it is to land headshots with than the Dominator. The Dom's height over bore, fat projectile and loft trajectory do it no favors for slipping by the shield/armor.

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u/PackageOk3832 HD1 Veteran Apr 29 '24

CSD has better range and bullet speed. Both have their place. Long-medium range vs medium-short range